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Niem_34 (Early Medieval Poland) and RISE568 (Early Medieval Czechia):
http://i.imgur.com/r4mVqTN.png
Chyba te.Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley
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Can you share their actual k36 results?
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Weird, because they are actually quite different:
RISE568:
East_Central_Euro 32.41
Eastern_Euro 24.62
Central_Euro 24.42
North_Sea 16.41
Iberian 2.11
Niem_34:
Fennoscandian 32.13
Central_Euro 15.23
East_Central_Euro 14.77
North_Sea 10.54
North_Atlantic 7.64
Basque 6.71
Eastern_Euro 6.25
West_Med 5.8
South_Central_Asian 0.9
Iberian 0.01
Oceanian 0.01
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Niemcza has such high fennoscandian?
Shouldn't his results look more Slavic like the Rise 568. So basically niemcza is more Baltic while Rise568 was more Slavic?
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Yes it seems so. Baltic or Baltic Finnic? Ward's Dendrogram for Niem_34 (made by Mlukas):
Niemcza people also had raher unusual skulls when compared to other Early Medieval Poles:
https://www.academia.edu/31578238/Bi...raits_analysis
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"Niemcza" indicates that it was originally inhabited by Non-Slavs.
Because its name basically means "people who can't speak Slavic":
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niemcza#Toponimia
Nazwa, nadana przez Słowian, przybyłych na Śląsk w VI wieku n.e.[2], wywodzi się prawdopodobnie od prasłowiańskiego słowa '*nemьcь' (niemy)[3], Nazywano tak ludzi niewładających językiem Słowian, obcych. Już od końca IX w. wyraz ten z pewnością odnosił się do germańskich sąsiadów plemion zachodniosłowiańskich. Najstarsze zapisy nazwy: 990, 1125, 1177 Nemci, 1018, 1155 Nemechi (...)
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Maybe your Mt-dna is from those people?
Seems east/central eruope was pretty genetically diverse. I wanna see some pure slav samples.
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These were probably ones of firsts Poldeutsches! (if not counted Popielova or Lestkowa... )
Ponieważ nazwa została zanotowana w zaginionym Roczniku Praskim jako nazwa istniejącego już i znanego grodu pod datą 990, jej powstanie należy łączyć z okresem władztwa wielkomorawskiego i czeskiego a więc z okresem od schyłku IX w. do r. 989. Według wzmianki z kroniki Thietmara z Merseburga nazwa grodu pochodzi od Niemców, którzy mieli gród założyć czy zbudować. Można to interpretować tak, że wzięci do niewoli przez Czechów czy Morawian Niemcy - rzemieślnicy, cieśle i in. wykonywali prace przy budowie groduj[4].Takie podania znane były dawniej w samej Niemczy
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That is massive central euro compared to everything i have saw over years. Both actually, just one much more extreme.
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K36 results of another Wielbark sample, Mas_5 from Masłomęcz:
North_Sea 42.74
Central_Euro 24.69
Eastern_Euro 14.69
French 13.58
East_Balkan 2.19
Italian 1.31
Volga-Ural 0.80
Highest North_Sea ever seen (and remember this is K36, not K15).
According to Maciamo, W6a is typically Slavic, Baltic and Indo-Iranian.
As for ancient DNA samples, here is where W6a has been found so far:
~3500-2700 BC, Yamnaya, Lopatino II
~3260-2630 BC, Corded Ware, Plinkaigalis
~2566-2477 BC, Corded Ware, Esperstedt
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