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    Default Lord of the Rings=Eurocentric?

    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t910662/

    Its a bit long but if you want read it. It says Tolkien was influenced by Wagner (Hitler was also influenced by Richard Wagner). He put germanic heroe imaginery into scene and saw jews as scum.
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    Tolkien was probably influenced by Wagner to a degree (he would later deny it though) but he himself had a positive attitude towards jews. He wrote an angry letter to the Nazis after his German publisher asked him to confirm if he was of Aryan descent:
    Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore purely English, and I am an English subject - which should be sufficient. I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride.

    Your enquiry is doubtless made in order to comply with the laws of your own country, but that this should be held to apply to the subjects of another state would be improper, even if it had (as it has not) any bearing whatsoever on the merits of my work or its sustainability for publication, of which you appear to have satisfied yourselves without reference to my Abstammung.

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    LOTR is actually very racist. Ban it now. Orcophobia must be eradicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    LOTR is actually very racist. Ban it now. Orcophobia must be eradicated.
    I never said it should be banned, stop being silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I never said it should be banned, stop being silly.
    But I say it, Morty.
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    Lord of the Rings was written between 1937 and 1949; in many ways reflects the geopolitical situation of the world in that epoch, the rise and fall of Nazism, the WWII, the Arab-Istraeli wars, The Cold War

    Men of the West (Dúnedain, Gondor, Rohan, Dale) = the Western civilization (the good)
    Southrons / Haradrim / Pirates of Umbar (dark skinned people servants of Sauron) = Arabs / North Africans (the ugly)
    Easterlings (the evil men of the East, servants of Sauron) = Russians, the Communist block (the bad)
    The Elves = they look like the mythical Arian people of the Nazis, all perfect and more civilized of the other peoples
    The Dwarves (ugly, secretive, greedy, always searching for gold and jewels) = Jews
    Non Auro, Sed Ferro, Recuperanda Est Patria (Not by Gold, But by Iron, Is the Nation to be Recovered) - Marcus Furius Camillus (Roman General)

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    Just like the Witcher game was accused of that because there is literally not a single person of color in the game.

    And the non-humans were made like they almost represent minorities in white countries,being discriminated against and mistreated but at the same time shown in bad light,thieving elfs,gangster thug dwarfs,evil mages,soothsayers,con artists.

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    LotR is a wonderful series. The blacks are represented by the Far-Haradians, who are described as being half-human, half-troll in appearance.
    The near-Haradians are basically Levantines iirc. The near-Haradians were supposedly wiped out by the niggers and Mordor. A cautionary tale to be sure.
    Mordor (collectivism) + Far-Haradians (negroes) = destruction of civilization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    Just like the Witcher game was accused of that because there is literally not a single person of color in the game.

    And the non-humans were made like they almost represent minorities in white countries,being discriminated against and mistreated but at the same time shown in bad light,thieving elfs,gangster thug dwarfs,evil mages,soothsayers,con artists.
    I have never played the witcher (and I dont game much in general)? Quick breakdown? Is it set in a European inspired setting? Surely it isnt ridiculous to attempt to promote immersion by basing game lore off of real-worle cultures?

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    Now you offended by LOTR too?

    Tolkien was a philologist and the fictional universe he has built mainly influenced from Germanic and some other European mythologies. That's all.

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