Are all Slavs descended from Dacians, Thracians and Balts?

[Voskos]

What do you think?

[Freeroostah]

Sarmatians imo

[Peterski]

I did K36 nMonte with use of some ancient samples for Early Medieval Slav (RISE568).

And he came out like this (I expected Hungarians BR2, BR1 and IR1 instead of I0803):

RISE598 72.8 ---> Late Bronze Age (Lithuania)
I0803 23.8 ---> Unetice culture (East Germany)
I0247 3.5 ---> Iron Age Volga Scythian (Russia)

And he got 0% from all other samples used in this simulation:

PLN17 0.0
RISE150 0.0
RISE577 0.0
RISE566 0.0
RISE586 0.0
RISE154 0.0
IR1 0.0 ---> Iron Age Hungary
RISE174 0.0
RISE276 0.0
I0099 0.0
I1955 0.0
BR2 0.0 ---> Bronze Age Hungary
BR1 0.0 ---> Bronze Age Hungary
RISE373 0.0
RISE397 0.0
RISE374 0.0
RISE412 0.0
I0047 0.0
I0116 0.0
I0164 0.0

But in RISE568's Closest Single Populations, Hungarian BR1 is 2nd after RISE598:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
RISE598 BR1 RISE276 PLN17 I0803 RISE174 RISE566 I0116
22.07262 32.35667 34.11400 35.19579 40.53543 40.85405 42.25327 42.59844

We don't have good quality ancient Thracian samples, so I couldn't use them.

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RISE568 (Early Medieval Slav, 600-900 AD):

http://i.imgur.com/STnF3Zk.png

[Thanas Django]

If a foreign tribe invades for example the Thracians, kill all their males and breed with the Thracian females can their children say they are Thracians?

[Peterski]

The OP is about ancestry of Proto-Slavs, not modern Slavs.

Proto-Slavs were definitely similar to Balts, but not identical.

They were probably Southern or South-Western Balto-Slavs.

[TheForeigner]

Definitely not Thracians(including Dacians).

[Peterski]

Soon we will have Slavic DNA from Early Medieval Poland:

Niemcza - 31 samples dated to 900-1000 AD
Sowinki - 19 samples dated to 1000-1100 AD
Markowice - 8 samples dated to 1000-1200 AD
Gniezno - 2 samples dated to 1000-1200 AD
Łegowo - 8 samples dated to 1000-1200 AD

And even more (this is only one part of these samples).

There will be also samples from Pre-Slavic Poland, including:

Kowalewko - 48 samples dated to 100-300 AD
Masłomecz - 24 samples dated to 200-400 AD

[Peterski]

I did K36 nMonte with use of some ancient samples for Early Medieval Slav (RISE568).

And nMonte with 322 modern population averages (instead of ancient samples):

RISE568

PL_Sudovia 63.15
PL_north 23.50
PL_Mazovia 8.35
Lithuanian 1.85
PL_mixed 1.25
Ukrainian_East 0.30
PL_Podlasie_East_Mazovia 0.25
Belarusian_East 0.20
Russian_Bryansk 0.20
Pl_Kashubians 0.20
Moksha 0.15
Russian_Kursk 0.10
Russian_Oryol 0.10
Russian_Tambov 0.10
Belarusian_Polesye 0.05
Russian_Don_Cossack 0.05
Russian_Smolensk 0.05
Ukrainian_Central 0.05
PL_Wielkopolska 0.05
PL_Upper_Silesia 0.05

Spoiler!

Samoa 0.00
Maori 0.00
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Melanesian 0.00
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[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
PL_Sudovia PL_Mazovia PL_Podlasie_East_Mazovia
23.29403 25.00205 25.51190
PL_mixed Pl_north Belarusian_East
25.88990 25.96538 26.07690
Pl_Kashubians Russian_Smolensk
26.44736 26.55861

So RISE568 is the most similar to modern Poles from Sudovia (region I):

[Dragoon]

Thracians ancestry might be found in various sizes around Bulgarians, Macedonians, Serbians.
Dacian ancestry... around Ukraine, Serbia, Bulgaria
Illyrians ancestry... around Croatia, Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia
Sarmatians... Ukraine, Russia, Poland
Balts... Russia, Poland, Belarus

[Lek]

Thracians ancestry might be found in various sizes around Bulgarians, Macedonians, Serbians.
Dacian ancestry... around Ukraine, Serbia, Bulgaria
Illyrians ancestry... around Croatia, Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia
Sarmatians... Ukraine, Russia, Poland
Balts... Russia, Poland, Belarus

But no Albania ? Interesting.