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Thread: All sodomites go to the hell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Because we are not Israelites,
    Yes, of course.
    This is also why Torah as a covenant doesnt bind us, and never did. But it does
    not mean, that that is wrong, or that some solutions to some everyday problems
    are not allow or that we cannot imitate it. Torah is perfect for the purpose which
    she did serve and for us is a source of knowledge about what is right and what is
    not. Paul said, that Torah was the nurturer and that we now (knowing Christ) are
    gwon up. But it does not mean, that we have to give up good advices and rules of
    the nurturer, quite opposite - good pupil follow this what he was taught by nurturer
    in adult life. Btw, if God showed some judicial conclusions in his perfect law, we can
    be sure, that they are good if not the best. Especially, if it is about civil or criminal
    stuff, which is not stricte religious and doesn't emerge only from particular covenant
    which was made, but is some more universal and practical everyday life's stuff... So,
    concluding, it's very good to imitate perfect law of God - certainly good and beneficial.

    More than that, NT had not to repeat everything what was in the OT to inform us what
    is right and what is not, becasue OT also apply to Christians. More than that - when first
    Chistians were preaching their message, there was no NT at all, and the people to whom
    it was preached regognized only OT. So, they preached with only the OT under arm, (like
    modern Jehovah's Witnesses), proving that this what they taught was scriptural. If they
    would be preaching, that killing witches is bad, their message would be consider as wrong
    and contraditoral to the Holy Scripture. Beliving, that OT does not apply to Christians is a
    one of the greatest heresies. Apostle Paul wrote about the OT in such manner:

    All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving,
    for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man
    of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.


    He certainly did not preach with his own epistoles as the Bible under arm

    and what if someone disagrees with you on this?
    Then he disagrees. I can't force him to change his mind. But if someone would
    want to be a godly ruler, he would inforce such laws. Ot at least consider them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis View Post
    Jesus and his disciples are quoting OT all the time
    So, in your mind they are morons...
    They are quoting it for the reasons other than what you think they are quoting it for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis View Post
    You're spreading lies!
    When Jesus was saying "'You have been told that.." he had in mind
    an oral tradition of Jews, not Mosaic law. When he qouted OT he was
    saying: "You heard that it was written.."

    You totally don't understand, about what Jesus was talking, so you're
    writing heresy and disorting words of Jesus.
    It says 'You have heard that it was said..., but I tell you' or in some cases just 'you have heard..., but I tell you'. You are the one who does not understand, you are the one who is writing heresy. I may have unintentionally distorted words (I said it is written 'you have been told' instead of 'you have heard that it was said'), but my point stands, unlike yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    All Scripture is inspired of God
    LIES!

    Not all scriptures are inspired of god, the Ten Commandments were written by god himself in stone tables, not inspired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    Yes, of course.
    This is also why Torah as a covenant doesnt bind us, and never did. But it does
    not mean, that that is wrong, or that some solutions to some everyday problems
    are not allow or that we cannot imitate it. Torah is perfect for the purpose which
    she did serve and for us is a source of knowledge about what is right and what is
    not. Paul said, that Torah was the nurturer and that we now (knowing Christ) are
    gwon up. But it does not mean, that we have to give up good advices and rules of
    the nurturer, quite opposite - good pupil follow this what he was taught by nurturer
    in adult life. Btw, if God showed some judicial conclusions in his perfect law, we can
    be sure, that they are good if not the best. Especially, if it is about civil or criminal
    stuff, which is not stricte religious and doesn't emerge only from particular covenant
    which was made, but is some more universal and practical everyday life's stuff... So,
    concluding, it's very good to imitate perfect law of God - certainly good and beneficial.

    More than that, NT had not to repeat everything what was in the OT to inform us what
    is right and what is not, becasue OT also apply to Christians. More than that - when first
    Chistians were preaching their message, there was no NT at all, and the people to whom
    it was preached regognized only OT. So, they preached with only the OT under arm, (like
    modern Jehovah's Witnesses), proving that this what they taught was scriptural. If they
    would be preaching, that killing witches is bad, their message would be consider as wrong
    and contraditoral to the Holy Scripture. Beliving, that OT does not apply to Christians is a
    one of the greatest heresies. Apostle Paul wrote about the OT in such manner:

    All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving,
    for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man
    of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.


    He certainly did not preach with his own epistoles as the Bible under arm

    Then he disagrees. I can't force him to change his mind. But if someone would
    want to be a godly ruler, he would inforce such laws. Ot at least consider them.
    You are able to contradict yourself multiple times in one lousy post because of your incoherent understanding of the OT and the NT and you are spreading heresies. The only OT law which Christians should follow are the 10 commandments which Jesus summed up in two commandments (Love your God and love your neighbours and each others). The OT most definitely does not apply to Christians when it comes to stoning fags, witches or whatever you may think, moron.

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    ...and sacrifice lambs and pigeons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    ...and sacrifice lambs and pigeons.
    Or circumcision, dietary laws regarding pork and some other food do not apply and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wota fuq View Post
    Or circumcision, restrictions regarding pork and so on.
    Marry the widow of your brother...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wota fuq View Post
    They are quoting it for the reasons other than what you think they are quoting it for.
    But they were quoting, what means that OT is the key
    to a correct understanding the Gospel. Because if you
    don't know a context of sentences which was quoted by
    Jesus, you won't understand what he had in mind. And
    unfortunatelly on your example it is visible.

    In NT there is no verse, which would say, that some
    passages of OT are outdated and you don't have to
    take into account them. It is only your imagination...

    It says 'You have heard that it was said..., but I tell you' or in some cases just 'you have heard..., but I tell you'.
    And I wrote you in previous post, that such phrases
    refered to orral tradition of Jews, not to OT! If you still
    don't understand that, then you're a retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis View Post
    But they were quoting, what means that OT is the key
    to a correct understanding the Gospel. Because if you
    don't know a context of sentences which was quoted by
    Jesus, you won't understand what he had in mind. And
    unfortunatelly on your example it is visible.
    The thing is that I do understand, but you are the one who does not understand. The OT is a key to understanding the Gospel (because the OT leads to the NT), but just not for the reasons you think. The OT was written only for Israelites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis View Post
    And I wrote you in previous post, that such phrases
    refered to orral tradition of Jews, not to OT! If you still
    don't understand that, then you're a retard.
    The Old Testament
    From Exodus
    If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely[e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
    The Old Testament
    From Leviticus
    ‘Anyone who takes the life of a human being is to be put to death. Anyone who takes the life of someone’s animal must make restitution—life for life. Anyone who injures their neighbor is to be injured in the same manner: 20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. The one who has inflicted the injury must suffer the same injury. Whoever kills an animal must make restitution, but whoever kills a human being is to be put to death.
    The New Testament
    Matthew
    You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
    The Old Testament
    Leviticus
    Do not hate a fellow Israelite in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in their guilt.
    The New Testament
    Matthew
    You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis View Post
    In NT there is no verse, which would say, that some
    passages of OT are outdated and you don't have to
    take into account them. It is only your imagination...
    Not some passages, but all.

    Hebrews 8:13
    By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
    Galatians 3:23–25
    Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis View Post
    But they were quoting, what means that OT is the key
    to a correct understanding the Gospel. Because if you
    don't know a context of sentences which was quoted by
    Jesus, you won't understand what he had in mind. And
    unfortunatelly on your example it is visible.
    The thing is that I do understand, but you are the one who does not understand. The OT is a key to understanding the Gospel (because the OT leads to the NT), but just not for the reasons you think. The OT was written only for Israelites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis View Post
    And I wrote you in previous post, that such phrases
    refered to orral tradition of Jews, not to OT! If you still
    don't understand that, then you're a retard.
    The Old Testament
    From Exodus
    If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely[e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
    The Old Testament
    From Leviticus
    ‘Anyone who takes the life of a human being is to be put to death. Anyone who takes the life of someone’s animal must make restitution—life for life. Anyone who injures their neighbor is to be injured in the same manner: 20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. The one who has inflicted the injury must suffer the same injury. Whoever kills an animal must make restitution, but whoever kills a human being is to be put to death.
    The New Testament
    Matthew
    You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
    The Old Testament
    Leviticus
    Do not hate a fellow Israelite in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in their guilt.
    The New Testament
    Matthew
    You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis View Post
    In NT there is no verse, which would say, that some
    passages of OT are outdated and you don't have to
    take into account them. It is only your imagination...
    Not some passages, but all.

    Paul's messages
    Hebrews 8:13
    By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
    Galatians 3:23–25
    Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.

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