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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    I don't understand WHY this religious people are so obsessed with somomites, but don't give a fuck about fornicators despite both are same level of sin.
    This is true. If one takes his Christianity seriously, sexual immorality of all types is a grave sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    There is no god. Theres no reason him to make the world imperfect. If we are born in his image then why are we imperfect? God is supposed to be the highest. How can be the most moral but we be riddled with sin, even before we act we are riddled with sin? Does this imply god is sinful. Is the world just an experiment for his enjoyment?

    But everything I enjoy in the world is thanks to the accomplishment of another human or living thing or something in nature.
    We were made in His image to worship Him better. That's it. The purpose of life is to worship God, please Him with your actions, and utilize all those rights He has endowed humanity with.
    We are imperfect as to be inferior to God. Why would an all powerful entity give up power to His creations? We can aspire through our technology and piety to draw closer to God, as He has given us all the tools to do so.

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    Fundamentalist people are the worst. I can only understand people who convert or follow a religion for ethnic reasons. But to actually believe in all the bullshit? My god...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekarotuinen View Post
    We were made in His image to worship Him better. That's it. The purpose of life is to worship God, please Him with your actions, and utilize all those rights He has endowed humanity with.
    We are imperfect as to be inferior to God. Why would an all powerful entity give up power to His creations? We can aspire through our technology and piety to draw closer to God, as He has given us all the tools to do so.
    They are no unalienable rights. Just social contracts

    There is no god. Fact is god all knowing and all capable. Created a flawed world where he cannot even correct his mistakes. He makes laws to restrict. There is no god. Its stupid to give people freedom and then punish them for just not acknowledging his existence. You are imperfect in the image of god. You are born with sin therefore inherently evil by definition. Even before you have done anything, you are defined this way. God created adam and eve in his image. and hid knowledge from them? Why would he do this. Why would he hide away such wisdom from his creations? Isnt that a conflict if god is wise and wanted to create them in his wisdom? Or did he just wanted to create empty minds for his amusement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    They are no unalienable rights. Just social contracts

    There is no god. Fact is god all knowing and all capable. Created a flawed world where he cannot even correct his mistakes. He makes laws to restrict. There is no god. Its stupid to give people freedom and then punish them for just not acknowledging their existence. You are imperfect in the image of god. You are born with sin therefore inherently evil by definition. Even before you have done anything, you are defined this way. God created adam and eve in his image. and hid knowledge from them? Why would he do this. Why would he hide away such wisdom from his creations? Isnt that a conflict if god is wise and wanted to create them in his wisdom?
    >Social contracts
    Even other secularists disagree with that. Ever heard of the NAP?

    >Cannot correct his mistakes
    He makes no mistakes and does not need to actively intervene. The world is flawed because He made it that way intentionally and He does not directly change things in Dunya, only via intermediaries.

    He hid knowledge from Adam and Eve as a litmus test, that which is forbidden, is forbidden, even if you wish it not to be. But Gos has commandes believers to seek knowledge, so it is not knowledge in of itself that is wrong.

    He only created us in his image so that we may properly worship him, God owes us nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekarotuinen View Post
    >Social contracts
    Even other secularists disagree with that. Ever heard of the NAP?

    >Cannot correct his mistakes
    He makes no mistakes and does not need to actively intervene. The world is flawed because He made it that way intentionally and He does not directly change things in Dunya, only via intermediaries.

    He hid knowledge from Adam and Eve as a litmus test, that which is forbidden, is forbidden, even if you wish it not to be. But Gos has commandes believers to seek knowledge, so it is not knowledge in of itself that is wrong.

    He only created us in his image so that we may properly worship him, God owes us nothing.
    What was the point of testing them? To hid knowledge from them
    So he sends the snake to test them. What was the point of deceiving his own but not informing them of anything about the consequences, what may happen ect? He never bothered to educate them. Just let them run mindless.


    They ate the fruit of knowledge and they then were not stupid and naive anymore. But god casted them out. what was the lesson?

    Social contract is just that you as a citizen agree by the laws of the government in return for their protection. In this contract the government may ask tribute. but in return they keep property from being raided or they are protected

    Worship is enslavement of your individuality. Because you neglect interest for praising someone else. You place someone else above you. And you let them dictate your life by how you live and your fear of them. You respect them more than yourself
    Last edited by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin; 06-17-2017 at 02:47 AM.

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    The homosexual identity is a 20th century invention (although the first man to start gay propaganda was born in the 19th century). And most sodomites didn't even believe they were born that way, they saw sodomy as an act that they wanted to indulge in. The born that way hoax was started in 1985 by two pedophiles (Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen) so that sodomites could get minority status. People become gay because of traumatic experiences (e.g. getting raped as a kid, living with a single mother, etc). Its absolutely ridiculous of liberal atheists have turned the sodomy debate into a religious (Abrahamic) vs. scientific (atheist) debate. Sodomy is just a hobby like skateboarding or playing football, except its a capricious desire (with harmful effects) rather than just a sport like the other two examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    People become gay because of traumatic experiences
    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Sodomy is just a hobby


    Guy, you was capable to contradict yourself in only one post.

    Doesn't exist sciential unanimity about cause/origin of homosexuality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    I don't understand WHY this religious people are so obsessed with somomites, but don't give a fuck about fornicators despite both are same level of sin.
    Sodomites and fornicators are both worthy of death and in normal country
    such people would be stoned.

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    I'll be looking forward to the mead when I go to meet Hél herself.

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