Yes, The Greeks Invented Cheesecake Too

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Before Greek influences China was a barbaric and brutal civilisation where concubines would be buried alive alongside the emperor. Only gradually China became civilised and adopted Greek proto-humanistic ideals, albeit Sinotised like legalism and meritocracy. China also would relapse to full-on brutality, like it was during the Ming Dynasty in the Middle Ages. All civilisation originated in Greece.

You have an interesting sense of humour...

[Dandelion]

You have an interesting sense of humour...

If current inhabitants of Anatolia embraced their Hellenistic past some more, things would be better in terms of human rights and stability.

[epirot]

I have partly ancestry from Asia Minor like 40% of Greeks.

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In Epiros and the rest of mainland Greece this must be one Minor Asian village every 20 vlah-sarakacan/local villages or less. So this is about less than 5%. God help us with those ultra arbitrary "statistics"....

Even if we account the "partly" word in there, this cannot reach 40% by any means.

[Hellenas]

40%%%%???????????????????????????????????????????? ??????

In Epiros and the rest of mainland Greece this must be one Minor Asian village every 20 vlah-sarakacan/local villages or less. So this is about less than 5%. God help us with those ultra arbitrary "statistics"....

Even if we account the "partly" word in there, this cannot reach 40% by any means.

Why I have to post to ignorants same things for one thousand times?

Population strength

Today, about 40% of the population of Greece claims full or partial descent from the Asia Minor refugees; as does an almost equal percentage of diasporan Greeks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_...ation_strength

Impact on the Greek psyche

The descendants of the refugees have found hundreds of organizations and institutes in Greece and in the diaspora to promote their civilization and to keep in touch with their roots. Various museums in Greece (such as the Benaki Museum) display artifacts from Asia Minor, Pontus, Cappadocia and Eastern Thrace to denote the Greek presence and emphasize the origins of about 40% of the population of modern Greece.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_...e_Greek_psyche


More than a half of the population of Greek Macedonia has Asia Minor ancestry, in many cases from Pontus.

The core of the refugee population settled in Attica and Macedonia. The official refugee population per region in 1928 was as follows (number of refugees and percent of the refugee population):[9]

Greeks of Macedonia

1913 513,000(before settlement)

1926 Greeks 1,341,000(after settlement)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_..._of_settlement

In 1923 Greece and Turkey signed the Treaty of Lausanne in the aftermath of the Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922), and in total 776,000 Greek refugees from Turkey were resettled in the region.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedo...)#Demographics

If you take in mind that 1.5 Anatolian Greeks almost assimilated by 5.5 Mainland Greeks, nothing more logical to have as a result 40% of modern Greek population to have partly Anatolian Greek ancestry.

1920 Population of Greece 5,531,474

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr..._modern_Greece

It is usually estimated that the refugees in Greece numbered approximately 1.5 million people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_...ation_strength

1928 Population of Greece 6,204,684(Following loss of the Smyrna Zone and Eastern Thrace after the Treaty of Lausanne, and the population exchange between Greece and Turkey)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr..._modern_Greece

Since you interested about Epiros, the places of settlement are:

Pontians

Nea Kerasous, Preveza (Kerasous)
Nea Sampsous, Preveza (Sampsous)
Nea Sinopi, Preveza (Sinopi)

Asia Minor Greeks

Anatoli, Ioannina (Asia Minor)

Find rest of settlements here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_refugees#List_of_settlements

Just count the Greeks here with partly Anatolian Greek ancestry: Raine, catgeorge, Freerostah, Faklon, Me and I also think Scholarios Chiotis. Even Sikeliot has a Greek ancestor from Asia Minor.

[catgeorge]

The Greeks from Anatolia (East Greece) were quality industrialists and managers. There are differences - accepted vast majority of their customs , the bouzouki which I don't listen much of

[epirot]

Before Greek influences China was a barbaric and brutal civilisation where concubines would be buried alive alongside the emperor. Only gradually China became civilised and adopted Greek proto-humanistic ideals, albeit Sinotised like legalism and meritocracy. China also would relapse to full-on brutality, like it was during the Ming Dynasty in the Middle Ages. All civilisation originated in Greece.

δεν είναι τόσο χαριτωμένο όταν ανθέλληνες ψευτο-ελληνόφωνες αλβανοί μιλούν στα αγγλικά για πράγματα για τα οποία δεν έχουν ιδέα......

[epirot]

Why I have to post to ignorants same things for one thousand times?

Population strength

Today, about 40% of the population of Greece claims full or partial descent from the Asia Minor refugees; as does an almost equal percentage of diasporan Greeks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_...ation_strength

Impact on the Greek psyche

The descendants of the refugees have found hundreds of organizations and institutes in Greece and in the diaspora to promote their civilization and to keep in touch with their roots. Various museums in Greece (such as the Benaki Museum) display artifacts from Asia Minor, Pontus, Cappadocia and Eastern Thrace to denote the Greek presence and emphasize the origins of about 40% of the population of modern Greece.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_...e_Greek_psyche


More than a half of the population of Greek Macedonia has Asia Minor ancestry, in many cases from Pontus.

The core of the refugee population settled in Attica and Macedonia. The official refugee population per region in 1928 was as follows (number of refugees and percent of the refugee population):[9]

Greeks of Macedonia

1913 513,000(before settlement)

1926 Greeks 1,341,000(after settlement)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_..._of_settlement

In 1923 Greece and Turkey signed the Treaty of Lausanne in the aftermath of the Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922), and in total 776,000 Greek refugees from Turkey were resettled in the region.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedo...)#Demographics

If you take in mind that 1.5 Anatolian Greeks almost assimilated by 5.5 Mainland Greeks, nothing more logical to have as a result 40% of modern Greek population to have partly Anatolian Greek ancestry.

1920 Population of Greece 5,531,474

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr..._modern_Greece

It is usually estimated that the refugees in Greece numbered approximately 1.5 million people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_...ation_strength

1928 Population of Greece 6,204,684(Following loss of the Smyrna Zone and Eastern Thrace after the Treaty of Lausanne, and the population exchange between Greece and Turkey)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr..._modern_Greece

Since you interested about Epiros, the places of settlement are:

Pontians

Nea Kerasous, Preveza (Kerasous)
Nea Sampsous, Preveza (Sampsous)
Nea Sinopi, Preveza (Sinopi)

Asia Minor Greeks

Anatoli, Ioannina (Asia Minor)

Find rest of settlements here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_...of_settlements

Just count the Greeks here with partly Anatolian Greek ancestry: Raine, catgeorge, Freerostah, Faklon, Me and I also think Scholarios Chiotis. Even Sikeliot has a Greek ancestor from Asia Minor.

You crazy albanian, anatoli, neo-kesaria are two villages among 400.... The same holds true for most mainland Greece (Ipiros-Thesalia-Roumeli-Morias). Makedonia differs for the obvious reasons (The british wanted to wipe out the Slavic speakers by any means).

You poor Albanian even if your british numbers are any true (I highly doubt) :
6204684 (locals + pontians + asia minor) - 5531474 (locals) = 673210
673210 / 6204684 = .10850028784705232369 = 10.8 %

And at least in the poor inadequate Vlach schools I went in Ipiros, not on par with your ancient education you got in your albanian village in Attica, ..... usually 10.8% << 40%

So this 40% in absolute numbers is 10% or less. 40% might refer to people who have even remote a slight relation to Asia Minor but that would apply only for freaking Athens. I doubt the 40% number (EVEN WITH THIS SECOND LOOSER DEFINITION), OVER ALL GREEK POPULATION would survive a basic sanity statistics test.

Now I want to add this :
Ppl from Asia Minor are fine ppl. No complaints. *BUT* Sad true is that it took the local albanians MANY DECADES to accept the new comers from Asia Minor, and at the same time the refugees felt that they arrived in a utterly uncivilized place. There are many PERSONAL accounts for this. BELIEVE ME YOU WOULDN"T WANT ME TO ELABORATE FURTHER ...

Dear friend you are an albanian..... pure albanian...... twisting numbers to suit your pseudo-greek agenda is what you do best.

[Hellenas]

You crazy albanian, anatoli, neo-kesaria are two villages among 400.... The same holds true for most mainland Greece (Ipiros-Thesalia-Roumeli-Morias). Makedonia differs for the obvious reasons (The british wanted to wipe out the Slavic speakers by any means).

You poor Albanian even if your british numbers are any true (I highly doubt) :
6204684 (locals + pontians + asia minor) - 5531474 (locals) = 673210
673210 / 6204684 = .10850028784705232369 = 10.8 %

And at least in the poor inadequate Vlach schools I went in Ipiros, not on par with your ancient education you got in your albanian village in Attica, ..... usually 10.8% << 40%

So this 40% in absolute numbers is 10% or less. 40% might refer to people who have even remote a slight relation to Asia Minor but that would apply only for freaking Athens. I doubt the 40% number (EVEN WITH THIS SECOND LOOSER DEFINITION), OVER ALL GREEK POPULATION would survive a basic sanity statistics test.

Now I want to add this :
Ppl from Asia Minor are fine ppl. No complaints. *BUT* Sad true is that it took the local albanians MANY DECADES to accept the new comers from Asia Minor, and at the same time the refugees felt that they arrived in a utterly uncivilized place. There are many PERSONAL accounts for this. BELIEVE ME YOU WOULDN"T WANT ME TO ELABORATE FURTHER ...

Dear friend you are an albanian..... pure albanian...... twisting numbers to suit your pseudo-greek agenda is what you do best.

Dear Fyromian or traitor of Greece, Slav licker Epirot. Perhaps what you said is true for Epirus, as the Asia Minor Greeks who moved there were few, for all of Greece the statistics stand there, 40%, either you like it or not. You can follow the Fyromian, Albanian, Turkish and Leftist rhetoric and call me and all of Greeks as Albanians, Romanians, Slavs or whatever the fuck you want, to my balls. The bad thing for you is that I, like most of Greeks, have no any Albanian, Romanian or Slav ancestors, not even any Arvanite, Vlach or Slavophone but you can repeat your shity propaganda all you want. In real life if you call any Greek as Albanian you will get a punch straight to your fucking face or in best case a slap or a "Go to hell", know that you can insult Greeks only behind your pc and always anonymously. Greek lickers of foreigners are disgusting people, either they lick Americans, Germans or Slavs. In case your indeed a Greek, be proud of your treason against your own people and nation! You are not the first one, neither the only one...

From the "Albanian Athenians" for you.

[epirot]

I can defeat your 40% number even by its weaker definition anytime.
I won't comment on any of your ridiculous sentences.
I am not hostile against TRUE GREEKS OF ASIA MINOR.

You are a pure albanian to the bone.

My "rhetoric" is FAR FROM "LEFTIST" . I know very well how the "leftist" rhetoric sounds like when talking about the balkans.

Again, there is no purer albanian here than you.

Now go lick some western dick and unload its juice down your throat ... mmmmmmm yeah ancient democracy in its highest ...

[Dandelion]

δεν είναι τόσο χαριτωμένο όταν ανθέλληνες ψευτο-ελληνόφωνες αλβανοί μιλούν στα αγγλικά για πράγματα για τα οποία δεν έχουν ιδέα......

Did you just call me an Albanian? I doubt Raine would love to get called (Turk-)Albanian.

Sadly there are so many languages in the world, otherwise I'd learn Greek for the sake of defending Hellenism with the absurdest claims about Greek accomplishments.

And of course, the OP here isn't absurd and I don't want to detract from it, just to make this clear.