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    I am against any mosque opening in Europe.

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    Such an awkward way of trying and cramming in a puzzle piece.

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    Default Taboo-breaking liberal mosque opens in Berlin.

    The Arabic phrase "Allahu Akbar" ('God is greatest') resonated through the crowded Ibn-Rushd-Goethe-Mosque Friday as US-Malaysian Ani Zonneveld, one of the world's few female imams, launched the call to prayer.

    Then one of the founders of the new place of worship, lawyer and women's rights activist Seyran Ates, opened the event with words of welcome before Christian and Jewish guests and a large media contingent.

    "We want to send a signal against Islamic terror and the misuse of our religion," said Turkish-born Ates, 54, dressed in a long white robe. "We want to practise our religion together."

    Ates -- no stranger to breaking taboos, having called for a "sexual revolution" in the Muslim world -- vowed she would not allow ultra-conservatives "to rob me of my right to be Muslim".

    Kneeling on green carpets, the faithful -- men and women, side by side -- bowed to Mecca for the traditional prayer as the imam spoke in German.

    Some of the women wore veils or head coverings, others did not.

    'Depoliticise' Islam

    The new mosque, the 88th in the German capital, is located in a rented room on the third floor of the Protestant Johanniskirche (St. John's Church) building.

    All Muslims -- Sunni or Shia, Alawite or Sufi -- are welcome in the mosque named after one of Germany's greatest writers, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, and 12th century Islamic scholar Ibn Rushd, also known as Averroes.

    The seven founding members said they want to open their prayer hall to all groups, including gays and lesbians.

    "This mosque allows Muslims to define themselves in a new way," said co-founder and German Islam scholar Abdel-Hakim Ourghi.

    He added that "we will try to depoliticise Islam", as the religion was being torn by rival political movements. "Because religion is a private matter."

    Police stood guard outside the entrance of the building.

    The founders said they had not received any threats or insults, but that they fully expected not everyone would be happy.

    Time for change

    Germany, with some four million Muslims, has been the target of jihadist attacks, the deadliest last December when a truck tore through a Berlin Christmas market crowd killing 12 people.

    The arrival of more than one million refugees, most from mainly Muslim countries, since 2015 has worsened the fears of some Germans.

    Ates -- who has campaigned against forced marriages, domestic violence and so-called "honour killings" among Muslim migrants -- said the project was eight years in the making.

    "Many left along the way," she said. "They told us it was dangerous, that they were afraid."

    Elham Manea, a Swiss political scientist of Yemeni background, said the time had come for change, with other so-called liberal mosques having also opened in the United States, Britain and Switzerland.

    The Berlin mosque, financed by private donations, is located in the Berlin district of Moabit, which has a large immigrant population.

    It was in this neighbourhood that Tunisian Anis Amri, the Christmas market attacker, frequented a radical mosque that has since been closed.
    https://www.thelocal.de/20170617/tab...pens-in-berlin

    I give this a week.

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    I was with a group of several dozen Bosniaks at a friends place when this was on the news and everyone saw it. Even those Bosniaks who consider themselves "liberal" and vote for leftists and progressives were shocked. We then started betting how many days it is going to survive.

    Point is, not even liberal and leftist Muslims would ever go there.
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    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel View Post
    Islam has no place in Christian nations. Islam doesn't need anything except it's dissolution. Let me ask you this, Odin. Would you rather wake up to greet a blonde, Christian, traditional European family? Or a black, Muslim, "reformed" liberal family?

    Reformed, unreformed, Islam is all the same.
    Most Christians in the world are dark-skinned, now. Why do you think a South American Pope was elected? Besides, I know a few blonde Bosniak and Tatar Muslims

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    I am against any mosque opening in Europe.
    Would you prefer Muslims to pray in the streets?

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    Sick shit

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    Fake news.

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    The way I see it: liberal mosque = praying room in an airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    mosque = praying room.
    The way it's seen in my city (the sane one).
    Do what you should.

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