Croatian YDNA

**Jana** · 06-22-2017, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley

Quite decent results...

Do you know where is highest level of R1 in Croatia ? On island of Krk, north Adriatic, in my region (western Croatia). Biggest and most populous Croatian island
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krk

R1a = 37% R1b= 12%

Interestingly Dalmatian islands (southern Croatia) are strongly I2-dinaric dominant. I have a best friend with paternal ancestry from Cres (island close to Krk) which should have similar high proportions of R1 (R1a) and I'd try to get him tested.

**~~Rethel~~** · 06-22-2017, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Feiichy

R1a = 37% R1b= 12%

The highest amount is only 49%?

Eee... maybe it is better, considering the
confessions of Robocop, that he, as many
others, never consider himself even a Slav...

Krk (like Kraków

) - the capital bastion of IEs in Croatia!

**Jana** · 06-22-2017, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley

The highest amount is only 49%?

Eee... maybe it is better, considering the
confessions of Robocop, that he, as many
others, never consider himself even a Slav...

Krk (like Kraków

) - the capital bastion of IEs in Croatia!

What ? Both some clades R1a and I2 are Slavic haplos, but proportions in Croatia are different. R1a is also dominant in north Croatia, but for example in Slavonia (eastern Croatia) I2-dinaric has high value because of migrations from the south (dinaric areas) in the past, since fertile Panonnian Croatia was always attractive for people searching for better life.

Krk island has more closer proportions to Slovenian average than Croatian (and it's close to Slovenia) but people are undoubtely ethnic Croats since it has been one of most important sights in our old history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%C5%A1ka_tablet

''Baška tablet (Croatian: Bašćanska ploča, pronounced [bâʃt͡ɕanskaː plɔ̂t͡ʃa]) is one of the first monuments containing an inscription in the Croatian recension of the Church Slavonic language, dating from c. 1100.
The inscribed stone slab records King Zvonimir's donation of a piece of land to a Benedictine abbey in the time of abbot Držiha. The second half of the inscription tells how Abbot Dobrovit built the church along with nine monks.[1] The inscription is written in the Glagolitic script, exhibiting features of Church Slavonic of Croatian recension, such as writing (j)u for (j)ǫ, e for ę, i for y, and using one jer only (ъ). It provides the only example of transition from Glagolitic of the rounded Bulgarian type to the angular Croatian alphabet.''

PS Robocop (I miss him

) never said Croats aren't Slavs, but he was partly Italian and madly in love with mediterranean (including Dalmatian) culture so it's natural he felt closer to Italy than to any other country surrounding Croatia.

**~~Rethel~~** · 06-22-2017, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Feiichy

What ? Both some clades R1a and I2 are Slavic haplos,

Slavs => IE.
I2 is not IE.

[I]''Baška tablet (Croatian: Bašćanska ploča, pronounced [bâʃt͡ɕanskaː plɔ̂t͡ʃa]) is one of the first monuments containing an inscription in the Croatian recension of the Church Slavonic language, dating from c. 1100.

Fine, but what it has to do with the stuff?

PS Robocop (I miss him

)

When he is going to return?

**Jana** · 06-22-2017, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley

Slavs => IE.
I2 is not IE.

I2-CTS10228 is not PIE but most likely proto-Slavic. Just like I1 is proto-Germanic. Thousands years have passed since PIE split to more refined branches, and you have considerable non-IE input in these languages to witness that

We also have likely proto-Illyrian J2b2 sample from bronze age Dalmatia, and J2 isn't original PIE haplogroup.

Fine, but what it has to do with the stuff?

Some Serbian nationalist claim Croats are mix of Serbs (I2-dinaric) and Slovenes (R1a) which is obviously false since that tablet witness it was realm of Croatian King and our group was recorded in all Byzantine cronicles when we moved from southern Poland/western Ukraine area to east Adriatic.

When he is going to return?

I'm afraid he never will. Loki demoded him because he banned Al-Bosni for pedophilia thread, which he felt injustice and left in protest.