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    Default Croatian YDNA

    Samples are from Croatian Family Tree DNA project and from Croats from Serbian DNA project

    Sample size : 149

    I2a = 36%
    I2 dinaric-south - 45
    I2 dinaric-north - 6
    I2 western - 1
    I2 M223 - 1

    R1a = 26%
    R1a Z280 - 24
    R1a M458 - 4
    R1a M198 - 4
    R1a M420 - 4
    R1a Z283 - 2

    E1b = 11%
    E-V13 -17

    J2 = 10%
    J2a - 7
    J2b2 M421 - 4
    J2b1 M205 - 4

    R1b = 9%
    R1b L23 - 4
    R1b L51 - 3
    R1b - 4
    R1b L21 - 2
    R1b U106 - 2

    I1 = 4%
    I1 M253 - 5
    I1 - 1

    Q1 = 2%
    Q1b - 2
    Q1a - 1

    G1 = 1%
    G2 = 1%

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    G is low and no J1. Anatolian admixture is almost absent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    G is low and no J1. Anatolian admixture is almost absent.
    Aren't Anatolian farmers also J2a ? I am not sure that's why I ask.
    I will post more about specific subclades too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Aren't Anatlolian farmers also J2a ? I am not sure that's why I ask.
    I will post more about specific subclades too.
    yeah too. i think J1/J2a is caucasus admix and G is neolithic anatolian.

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    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Croatian +50% Serbian @ 2.265001

    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer
    how come the age of I2a2 Din subclade exactly coincides with the age of Bosnian Pyramids?

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    Subclade distribution

    I2 dinaric south subclade is defined with SNP PH908, which can be predicted in 44 out of 45 samples.
    PH908 has two major branches which were detected in Croatian samples:
    - A13912
    - Z16983

    R1a Z280 is divided into many subclades, and by far the most common among Croats is Y2613 (''Carpatho-Dalmatian'') with 14 samples.
    Second most common is YP343 (''western Carpathian''). Other common Z280 subclades are Z92 (''Baltic'') and Y2902 (''Volga-Carpathian'')

    R1a M458 was divided to L260 and L1029 lineages.

    E-V13 haplogroup most common branch was Z16988 with 5 samples. Other V13 subclades found among Croats are Z17017 and S2972.

    Among R1b samples, those belonging to ''eastern'' L23 branch fall into Z2103/BY611 cluster.

    I1 samples were mainly assigned to M253 lineage.
    Last edited by Jana; 06-19-2017 at 08:47 PM.

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    Not exceptionally different from the Romanian ones. Although, as I said in another thread, I calculated some frequencies based on some 23andme results and the results were quite unexpected. 35% R1a and 20% I2. (the sample size was small but still) Anyway, interesting post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grishnack View Post
    Not exceptionally different from the Romanian ones. Although, as I said in another thread, I calculated some frequencies based on some 23andme results and the results were quite unexpected. 35% R1a and 20% I2. (the sample size was small but still) Anyway, interesting post!
    Well yes, the percentages can change depend on how many regions are tested. I think this is more or lesss accurate. We still have some regions that are under-sampled in commmercial tests, but Croatia has been well-covered by professional genetic researches (in Europa Nazione post). I was more interested in specific subclades by doing this, especially R1a. One research pointed that Croatian type of R1a was mainly M458 which was proved erraneous by later studies and amateur statistics like this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Samples are from Croatian Family Tree DNA project and from Croats from Serbian DNA project
    R1a = 26%
    R1b = 9%
    Quite decent results...

    G1 = 1%
    G2 = 1%
    And that is interesting!
    Not only "high" amount of G1 but it's equal level to G2... two x 1.5 persons

    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    I1 samples were mainly assigned to M253 lineage.
    But it is main lineage... I1 itself.

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