Westernmost Slavs (Hanoverian Wends)

[Peterski]

I don't know what is particularly "German" about their look?

All of them easily pass in Western Poland. And as far as I know Sorbs cluser with Western Poles or even with Central Poles (Sorbs are actually a bit more eastern-shifted than Western Poles).

[Jana]

I don't know what is particularly "German" about their look?
All of them easily pass in Western Poland. And as far as I know Sorbs cluser with Western Poles or even with Central Poles (Sorbs are actually a bit more eastern-shifted than Western Poles).

The left man easily passes as Danish and middle one has such stereotypical German face like from nazi films
Are you saying western Poles look like that ? Than they must have accumulated considerable Germanic blood trough the centuries.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Westernmost for today, cause in the past there were Slavic settlers much more western in Germany and Austria than that

[Peterski]

they must have accumulated considerable Germanic blood

Or maybe East Slavs have accumulated Baltic, Uralic etc. blood, which shifted them east.

RISE569 (Early Medieval Slav, dated to 660-770 AD) was very similar to modern Poles.

Soon we will have many Early Medieval samples from Western Poland:

Site / ID / N / N after QC / Dating / Excavation / Storage / Sample / type

Medieval Group:

Sowinki SI 21 19 1000AD-1100AD 1980s Long deposit Tooth
Niemcza NA 36 31 900AD-1000AD 1960s Long deposit Tooth
Markowice ME 8 8 1000AD-1200AD 2014 Arch. site Tooth
Gniezno GO 2 2 1000AD-1200AD 1980s Long deposit Tooth
Łegowo LO 9 8 1000AD-1200AD 2013-2015 Short deposit Tooth

Do you think that they will plot to the east of modern Western Poles?

[Jana]

Or maybe East Slavs have accumulated Baltic, Uralic etc. blood, which shifted them east.

For sure they did. About Germans and Poles I think both exchanged genes, because East Germans are close to Slavs aorund them but also western Poles like you have lot of NW Euro admixture.

RISE569 (Early Medieval Slav, dated to 660-770 AD) was very similar to modern Poles.

Are these samples really legit ? I seen one that clusters with Finns and that confuses me. Aren't they from Czech Republic area ? Plese shed some light on this

[Rethel]

So Northern Germans tend to look Lapponoid?:

According to maps which Mlukas showed on his site, all aplines, meds, dynarids aso are lappid

[Rethel]

Are you saying western Poles look like that ? Than they must have accumulated considerable Germanic blood trough the centuries.

In Poland was german and celtic substrate before Slavs came. More than that,
since 900 years german plumbers were constantly settled here, year by year up
until 1945. I estimate, that at least (very at least) 10% of Poles can be traced
formaly as Germans. Many Germans, especially these who did come before XVth
century are so deep polinized, that are unrecognizable - for example Gorals are
partialy Germans, burghers of early medieval cities, or a lot of knighthood from
XIIIth and XIVth century (like Tarnowski family - you would never guessed that
they are Germans by provenance, but they are indeed as many others).

Plus there, were lived german speaking population before
IIWW were many intermarriages between Germans and Poles.

[Rethel]

or a lot of knighthood from XIIIth and XIVth century

Yet I remind, that at one point of time, whole polish army was 100% German. In 1040.
Polish prince was given by Kaiser 500 knights. They obviously remain here. Considering
a fact, that before that, polish knighthood (as it can be called like that) 80 years earlier
counts 3000 warriors, then 500 is a big number, which would totaly be not recognizable
as german today, but they still live here, and could produced hundrets of thousnads of
direct descendants... we will never know, but it is highly probable.

[Magnolia]

You are weird really.
These people neither speak a Slavic language nor look their culture is Polish (for me only Slavic culture is Polish - because only Poles has rhe need still speak about Slavs - paradoxically to prove they are not Slavs).

[Ülev]

According to maps which Mlukas showed on his site, all aplines, meds, dynarids aso are lappid

yes