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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    England is easily the best European country in individual sports.
    I can think of several more sucessful countries than England in this department.

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    2012 Summer Olympics medal table
    Rank NOC Gold Silver Bronze Total
    1 United States (USA)‡ 46 28 29
    2 China (CHN)‡ 38 29 21 88
    3 Great Britain (GBR)* 29 17 19 65
    4 Russia (RUS)‡ 20 18 31 69
    5 South Korea (KOR)‡ 13 9 8 30


    2016 Summer Olympics Medal Table
    Rank NOC Gold Silver Bronze Total

    1 United States (USA) 46 37 38 121
    2 Great Britain (GBR) 27 23 17 67
    3 China (CHN) 26 18 26 70
    4 Russia (RUS) 19 17 19 55
    5 Germany (GER) 17 10 15 42
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    Speaking for Olympics, here is per capita medals ratio
    http://www.medalspercapita.com/

    Croatia 6th in the world, 2nd in Europe
    Slovenia 7th, 3rd in Europe
    Hungary 10th, 4th in Europe

    Great Britain 19th, 8th in Europe

    Gold medals per capita:
    Croatia 3rd in world, 1st in Europe
    Hungary 6th, 2nd in Europe
    Slovenia 10th, 4th in Europe

    Great Britain 13th, 6th in Europe

    Olympics is individual sports centered. And I gave example of three smaller countries in my neighbourhood (including my own) that are more sucessful than UK. And UK is ranked very high, but not as the best in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    The thing is that England does not focus it's attention on a select few sports. A lot of athletes that could have become great footballers/rugger/cricketers chose individual sports over team sports since England also cares about excelling in that department. England is easily the best European country in individual sports.

    As for team sports, the team sports that England is good at truly popular global sports. England is good at (but not the best in): football (most widespread sport in the world), cricket (very widespread & popular sport), and rugby (#2 in both codes - which are very popular global sports). Compare that to the team sports that Germany is good. Germany is good at football. What else is Germany good at? Maybe handball (which barely any people watch). I'm a bit puzzled by GB being poor at volleyball and basketball though considering how decent smaller/poorer countries are.

    England are much better at rugby (union) in recent years than they were in the past (historically Australia and South Africa were better), but they were still a side to be reckoned with even in the past and they have always been #1 in Europe (or were France better than them for a short while?).
    In rugby union, England have not always been the best side in Europe. During the 70's Wales were, during the 80's France were, and at other times England could be pretty mediocre too. The difference is, however, that even when relatively poor, due to their unrivalled strength-in-depth England could still maintain a certain level of standards and dignity - not losing to Italy or the Pacific Islands etc., whereas when the other Five (now Six) Nations are bad, they are really really bad. Here is a list of the Five and Six Nations champions for you:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Na...2.80.931999.29

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    Olympic Games suck. Most of its sports are not practiced nor by the 0,000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000001% of the population of the world.
    Disciplines such as rhythmic gymnastics, synchronized swimming, archery, canoe/kayak, BMX freestyle, diving, trampoline, badminton, fencing, pentathlon, etc etc etc etc, are a joke and if you take pride of having 7 millions of medals in these fields you are a joke too.

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