Should people on welfare be ashamed to receive it?

[N1019]

only uni students who receive it for their hard work should be proud and not have any problem in admitting it .
military veterans who got injured too

University students don't deserve welfare. They should feel humbled by the generosity of taxpayers who are funding their education by doing real hard work. I don't see much space for pride there. The same applies to unemployed men. How can a man be happy knowing that his own government and community consider him useless, and throw money earnt through the labour of others at him out of pity? No room for pride there, either. Since dependence on others tends to detract from a sense of masculinity, it is naturally shameful. Women of course are dependent on men - or the state, which is a substitute man - by nature, so they will never feel any shame for it.

Hard work? WTF? Hard work is when you have to go to a real job five days per week and perform well or else risk having your house repossessed and living on the street. Don't give me that BS about students knowing what hard work is.

The university itself is often part of a massive welfare capitalism scam. Subsidies to the universities, government-issued student loans with below market rates that allow people who probably shouldn't be at university attend, thereby driving up demand and prices and leading to a dumbing down of degrees/the emergence of many BS degrees like gender studies, a form of unemployment benefit for the students, many of whom get unproductive degrees and end up working in an unrelated field, struggling to repay their debt. What a crock. But hey, it's great if you happen to own a university.

[Bari]

The entitlement mentality is astounding here.

I will agree that there is a need for a certain amount of welfare in society, enough for people to bounce back if they encounter unforeseen difficulties. But to take pride in it? That's absolutely ridiculous. People should be grateful and humbled to receive welfare, there's nothing to be proud about. Also, a decent person would do whatever he can to get out of receiving welfare.

No where as astounding as the judgemental attitudes from you and others.

Its my right to claim welfare when unemployed. In Nordic countries we pay high taxes exactly because of this security. Thats why I receive every penny with dignity. Those on welfare should not feel bad about themselves. Instead of bringing them down society should do more to support them. Or do you believe putting down people will make them ready and prepared for finding a job? Its condescending attitudes like Yours that keep those on welfare miserable. Virtually no one wants to be unemployed, so rather offer support than scorn sounds like a good idea.

6 months is taking a holiday. No motivated, semi-educated functioning male need take that long to find work of some form. For shame.

Welfare is there as a safety net for the vulnerable, not the able bodied.

Such condescending attitude. I became burnt out. It was no holiday I was not prepared to get into the workforce, and needed time to get rest and get ready. I hope people like you get unemployed and receive the same scorn and lack of sympathy. It would humble you more to the situation.

Did you actually quit, or were you sacked?

Sacked.

[Cristiano viejo]

I hate immigrants reveicing money aka parasiting while we natives work very hard, that is what is a shame.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Work gives most people a feeling of purpose in life (and certainly value). This person is just floating along without purpose and doesn't feel he has value. It explains the willingness to commit suicide despite saying his life is great.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

No where as astounding as the judgemental attitudes from you and others.

Its my right to claim welfare when unemployed. In Nordic countries we pay high taxes exactly because of this security. Thats why I receive every penny with dignity. Those on welfare should not feel bad about themselves. Instead of bringing them down society should do more to support them. Or do you believe putting down people will make them ready and prepared for finding a job? Its condescending attitudes like Yours that keep those on welfare miserable. Virtually no one wants to be unemployed, so rather offer support than scorn sounds like a good idea.



Such condescending attitude. I became burnt out. It was no holiday I was not prepared to get into the workforce, and needed time to get rest and get ready. I hope people like you get unemployed and receive the same scorn and lack of sympathy. It would humble you more to the situation.


Sacked.

[wvwvw]

Germany admits: 75% of Muslim migrants will be on welfare for years to come
JUNE 23, 2017 12:46

They were supposed to be coming to supply a labor force that would make up for Germany’s declining birthrate. Instead, they’re going on welfare, which shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone, since the Quran says that non-Muslims must pay for the Muslims’ upkeep (9:29). Germany has imported a huge drain on its welfare system. What could possibly go wrong?



Refugee reality: Germany admits 75% face long-term unemployment and life on benefits
by Simon Osborne
Express, June 23, 2017

THREE quarters of Germany’s refugees will be long-term unemployed and claiming benefits for years, it was admitted today.

Aydan Özoğuz, commissioner for immigration, refugees and integration, told the Financial Times that only a quarter to a third of the newcomers would enter the labour market over the next five years, and “for many others we will need up to 10”...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...-Angela-Merkel

Hope vs reality, German expectations vs Muslim expectations, “Need workforce” vs “need dhimmis”.

[Bari]

[Kivan]

Depends on the case. If the person is able to get money by working and at same time receive it, yes, it's shameful.
Now if someone receive it temporarily because is unable to work or because of an emergency, no I don't think it's reason to be ashamed.

[Kamal900]

Depends on the case. If the person is able to get money by working and at same time receive it, yes, it's shameful.
Now if someone receive it temporarily because is unable to work or because of an emergency, no I don't think it's reason to be ashamed.

Pretty much this.

[Dna8]

Some people need your money more than you do.

End of discussion.