View Poll Results: What % of euro blood is your limit to consider somebody white?

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  • 100% European

    35 19.44%
  • 95% European

    24 13.33%
  • 90% European

    42 23.33%
  • 85% European

    18 10.00%
  • 80% European

    25 13.89%
  • 75% European

    12 6.67%
  • 70% European

    8 4.44%
  • 65% European

    2 1.11%
  • 60% European

    1 0.56%
  • 55% European

    4 2.22%
  • 50% European

    9 5.00%
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    Latinos with European haplogroups tend to be autosomally more European as well.

    This is similar to what could be observed in Europe after Indo-European invasions.

    Shortly after Steppe invasions, there was correlation between Y-DNA and autosomal DNA. From page 66 of Olalde et al. 2017 ("... The Genomic Transformation Of Northwest Europe"):

    Overall, Y-chromosome haplogroups [of Bell Beaker culture men] are highly correlated with steppe ancestry proportions in the nuclear genome (...).

    Six individuals outside Iberia without R1b Y-chromosomes were excavated in Hungary (n=4), Germany (n=1) and England (n=1). Interestingly, most of these individuals presented low amounts of steppe ancestry in the nuclear genome as compared to R1b individuals from the same regions (Figure S1).
    On GEDmatch Latinos with Native haplogroups tend to have more of Native autosomal DNA. Especially if they have both Amerindian Y-DNA and mtDNA, rather than just Amerindian mtDNA.

    And this is not so surprising, since we are only 500 years after Columbus.

    After the Indo-European invasion of Europe, higher classes were surely more Steppe-descended while lower classes were more Neolithic-descended. Especially in Southern Europe where Indo-Europeans did not replace the entire population, but mostly imposed themselves as new ruling elites.

    When more of ancient DNA full genome samples from Bronze Age and Iron Age Greece, Italy and Iberia get published, I am sure that we will see higher levels of Steppe ancestry in DNA of high status individuals - such as Mycenaean aristocracy or Roman patricians. While lower status individuals will be more similar to present-day Southern Europeans, with their low levels of Steppe ancestry.

    All Mediterranean supremacists will get triggered by these ancient DNA results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Latinos with European haplogroups tend to be autosomally more European as well.

    This is similar to what could be observed in Europe after Indo-European invasions.

    Shortly after Steppe invasions, there was correlation between Y-DNA and autosomal DNA. From page 66 of Olalde et al. 2017 ("... The Genomic Transformation Of Northwest Europe"):



    And that is not so surprising, we are only 500 years after Columbus.

    On GEDmatch Latinos with Native haplogroups tend to have more of Native autosomal DNA. Especially if they have both Amerindian Y-DNA and mtDNA, rather than just Amerindian mtDNA.

    After the Indo-European invasion of Europe, higher classes were surely more Steppe-descended while lower classes were more Neolithic-descended. Especially in Southern Europe where Indo-Europeans did not replace the entire population, but mostly imposed themselves as new ruling elites.

    When more of ancient DNA full genome samples from Bronze Age and Iron Age Greece, Italy and Iberia get published, I am sure that we will see higher levels of Steppe ancestry in DNA of high status individuals - such as Mycenaean aristocracy or Roman patricians. While lower status individuals will be more similar to present-day Southern Europeans, with their low levels of Steppe ancestry.
    I am the exception, only 3-4% native american contribution and my mtDNA is A2.
    It's crazy, but a mexican-american friend of mine has 35% Amerind and his mtDNA is H... really curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakin View Post
    I am the exception, only 3-4% native american contribution and my mtDNA is A2.
    It's crazy, but a mexican-american friend of mine has 35% Amerind and his mtDNA is H... really curious...
    Yes it curious, it is more common to have amerind MtDNA than YDNA because colonials killed the men and had babies with the woman, your case is quite curious too, I've seen many results similar than yours but I think no one scored amerind MtDNA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie999 View Post
    Yes it curious, it is more common to have amerind MtDNA than YDNA because colonials killed the men and had babies with the woman, your case is quite curious too, I've seen many results similar than yours but I think no one scored amerind MtDNA
    Exactly, my case is quite weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakin View Post
    Exactly, my case is quite weird.
    Having amerindian mtdna doesent necesarily mean that you are heavily amerindian autosomally




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    For the ones who voted 80% European (still quiete a few people) do you even consider me White based on Myheritage Im 80% White but based on WeGene Im only 60% White. How can you know What I really am?
    My AncestryDNA autosomal results [yes it is a link click on it]
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    South European origin.
    Don't consider myself white in the slightest.

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    I am among 94 and 98% Euro, and I consider me black, because in some calculators I score 2% SSA from Namibia.
    3-4% native american is weaker than 2% SSA.
    So I consider me black.
    Even in my country people consider me "average".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakin View Post
    I am among 94 and 98% Euro, and I consider me black, because in some calculators I score 2% SSA from Namibia.
    3-4% native american is weaker than 2% SSA.
    So I consider me black.
    Even in my country people consider me "average".
    Might be a good excuse to go take a tour in Namibia, hear the country is great for safaris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakin View Post
    I am the exception, only 3-4% native american contribution and my mtDNA is A2.
    It's crazy, but a mexican-american friend of mine has 35% Amerind and his mtDNA is H... really curious...
    there is a mexican from puebla who scored around 60-80% Amerindian and came out with two european haplogroups, crazy shit and rare in my eyes

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