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Both seem quite mongrel to be honest.
I used to think both could into Nordic, but I was deceived I think by the girls, where their mongoloid features were less obvious.
Now I see some documentary and a lot of Ukrainians look straight out of some propaganda about swarthy mongoloids, but not only that, many also are very dark and have strange facial features, like they belong in some far away swarthland.
That's not a European face.
With Russians it is usually just that trace amount of Djengis, which is present in almost all of them, but Ukrainians it is Tatars and Kazarians and Jews and all kinds of strange influence.
What do you think?
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