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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    Protestantism is the truest because it's based on the Bible. Not things humans say centuries later, not sacraments that were never referenced etc.
    Orthodox and Catholics believe faith in Christ isn't good enough for salvation and you can only achieve it thru permission of the church
    "Hello, I'm a Protestant, and Christianity was in error for 1.5k years until Martin Luther came along."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    "Hello, I'm a Protestant, and Christianity was in error for 1.5k years until Martin Luther came along."
    No.
    Certain church practices were though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    No.
    Certain church practices were though.
    In the Roman Catholic Church certainly. Protestantism was a decent into further theological madness, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    In the Roman Catholic Church certainly. Protestantism was a decent into further theological madness, though.
    Yeah if following the Bible is theological madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    Yeah if following the Bible is theological madness.
    Which of the 30k Protestant denominations are following the Bible and which are not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    Which of the 30k Protestant denominations are following the Bible and which are not?
    I follow the Bible. Where is the 30k number coming from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    I follow the Bible.
    Are your interpretations of the Bible correct? What context does the Bible exist in? Did it fall from heaven?

    Where is the 30k number coming from?
    The numbers are from the World Christian Encyclopedia. It inflates the number of Catholic and Orthodox denominations, other than that pretty much right on. Analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    Are your interpretations of the Bible correct? What context does the Bible exist in? Did it fall from heaven?
    Don't answer questions with questions until you can explain why the Catholic and Orthodox churches contradict John 3:16 by asserting faith isn't enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    Don't answer questions with questions until you can explain why the Catholic and Orthodox churches contradict John 3:16 by asserting faith isn't enough.
    I didn't answer your questions with questions. I posed questions and answered your question.

    As for sola fide, it is a false dialectic and just a symptom of the great theological failure that is Protestantism.

    First of all, John isn't saying faith alone saves in the sense Protestants think of it, because in true Orthodox theology, there is no real distinction between faith and works. Someone who has 'faith' but no good works doesn't have faith (read James 2:14-26). Jesus himself says in Matthew 19: 16-22 that if you want to be saved you have to keep the commandments. This is not because we are justified by works alone, but because faith and works are one, like a tree and its fruits are one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    I didn't answer your questions with questions. I posed questions and answered your question.

    As for sola fide, it is a false dialectic and just a symptom of the great theological failure that is Protestantism.

    First of all, John isn't saying faith alone saves in the sense Protestants think of it, because in true Orthodox theology, there is no real distinction between faith and works. Someone who has 'faith' but no good works doesn't have faith (read James 2:14-26). Jesus himself says in Matthew 19: 16-22 that if you want to be saved you have to keep the commandments. This is not because we are justified by works alone, but because faith and works are one, like a tree and its fruits are one.
    It says whoever believes will be saved. Commandments isn't the same thing as church approval.

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