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    The pagan element was introduced later by Constantine in the councils of nicaea. It's clear Constantine was a practicing pagan and manipulated some parts of the original story of the historic Jesus to fit some of his spiritual beliefs.

    December 25th being the birth of Jesus is a myth, December 25th is the "birth" of the sun after the winter solstice. Christmas has nothing to do with Christianity, it is a sun worshiping pagan holiday.
    Constantine has build monuments that can confirm this an example being the "Column of Constantine", notice it's crown of sun rays:



    Jesus here shown being the center of the zodiac:



    Even today, the vatican is littered with sun symbology.

    Obelisk in the vatican:



    Obelisks have they're origin in ancient Egypt and were dedicated to the sun god Ra.




    Catholic churches with the zodiac depicted on their window:





    I could go on and on. Jesus being "the light and the way" etc etc The proof is clear.
    "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    I didn't answer your questions with questions. I posed questions and answered your question.

    As for sola fide, it is a false dialectic and just a symptom of the great theological failure that is Protestantism.

    First of all, John isn't saying faith alone saves in the sense Protestants think of it, because in true Orthodox theology, there is no real distinction between faith and works. Someone who has 'faith' but no good works doesn't have faith (read James 2:14-26). Jesus himself says in Matthew 19: 16-22 that if you want to be saved you have to keep the commandments. This is not because we are justified by works alone, but because faith and works are one, like a tree and its fruits are one.
    For what it's worth, your last paragraph is throughly in line with (conservative) Protestant theology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    It says whoever believes will be saved. Commandments isn't the same thing as church approval.
    Both passages I refer to explicitly and implicitly deny sola fide, "church approval" has nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    Both passages I refer to explicitly and implicitly deny sola fide, "church approval" has nothing to do with it.
    Church approval is the only way to get salvation in Catholic and Orthodox churches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    For what it's worth, your last paragraph is throughly in line with (conservative) Protestant theology.
    It doesn't, though, unless Protestantism has changed from its early doctrine of Sola Fide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    Church approval is the only way to get salvation in Catholic and Orthodox churches.
    It isn't. But it's not even what you're talking about. This "church approval" has nothing to do with what the faith vs works debate was ever about. You're talking about something different, probably because you don't know anything about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    It doesn't, though, unless Protestantism has changed from its early doctrine of Sola Fide.
    It does. I think this is a semantic disagreement. Protestantism teaches that works have nothing to do with one's passage to heaven. That is acquired by faith, itself not a work, because God enables it. Works, though, are a proof of salvation. James is quite clear on that.

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    ^You're right, it is semantics. Luther makes a distinction between living and dead faith, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan Stalker View Post
    Christianity maintain lot of Pagan content like Christmas, Eastern, Halloween, saints just like you got many deities in polytheistic religions, Slava/Saint Patron day (in Serbian Orthodoxy), even cross is Pagan symbol.

    Early Christianity was just reformed Judaism, but modern-day European Christianity especially Catholicism and Orthodoxy is heavily Pagan influenced.
    You are correct in what you say about the paganism contained within jew-day-o/UnChristianity. It is not the message that YahShua taught nor want His true believers to teach. In Christian Identity we have removed all those unHoly days from our calendars and no longer celebrate them. Christian Identity has returned to the faith given us directly from the hands of the Master !

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