If Japanese attacked USSR instead of U.S.A, AXIS powers would win the war?

[Robocop]

I will not make some great intro with my opening post as I usually do, I will do it later, just say your opinion about this matter:

IF Japanese attacked USSR (in total coordination with Reich) and not U.S., means attack from both sides (Reich & Japanese Empire) on USSR, would AXIS (Germany, Italy, Japan and other Axis countries) win the war? YES or NO.


If YES, please explain why at least in short, if NO, same.

[ЛыSSый]

no. far east is very difficult battlefield. southern asians can't survive there by definition. for many times chinece\japanese tried to settle in but all attempts were failed. Only genetically modified asian tribes from russia can live there.

[blogen]

No, the battle of Halin Gol was the example of the Soviet superiority. Better arms and tactics.

[Robocop]

No, the battle of Halin Gol was the example of the Soviet superiority. Better arms and tactics.

Halin Gol battle happened in 1939, I was talking about coordinated attack of Reich from one side and Japanese from another 1941 or in spring 1942.

USSR wouldn't stand a chance, and USA wouldn't enter the war you could count on that.

American ppl were against USA entering the war even though president wanted too, the only reason why Americans entered directly into war was because of Pearl Harbour and that's a fact.

Even if Americans would enter the war without anyone attacking them, it would be around 1943 or 1944, by then..., USSR would be defeated.

No way USSR would withstand such all out attack from both side, no way, even if USSR had twice as many ppl as did they would be defeated.

P.S. Don't get me wrong, I am not on Reich side, never was, this is just historical talk from neutral point.

[Dick]

Halin Gol battle happened in 1939, I was talking about coordinated attack of Reich from one side and Japanese from another 1941 or in spring 1942.

USSR wouldn't stand a chance, and USA wouldn't enter the war you could count on that.

American ppl were against USA entering the war even though president wanted too, the only reason why Americans entered directly into war was because of Pearl Harbour and that's a fact.

Even if Americans would enter the war without anyone attacking them, it would be around 1943 or 1944, by then..., USSR would be defeated.

No way USSR would withstand such all out attack from both side, no way, even if USSR had twice as many ppl as did they would be defeated.

P.S. Don't get me wrong, I am not on Reich side, never was, this is just historical talk from neutral point.

And Roosevelt knew of the impending attack on Pearl Harbour just so the US can enter the war. Heck, he was probably cheering the Japanese on.

[Dick]

no. far east is very difficult battlefield. southern asians can't survive there by definition. for many times chinece\japanese tried to settle in but all attempts were failed. Only genetically modified asian tribes from russia can live there.

You make it sound like they were invented in a Soviet science lab.

[Robocop]

no. far east is very difficult battlefield. southern asians can't survive there by definition. for many times chinece\japanese tried to settle in but all attempts were failed. Only genetically modified asian tribes from russia can live there.

This has nothing to do with genetics...

In case of all out coordinated attack of Reich from one side on USSR and Japanese from another in 1941, USSR would be defeated till 1943 or in 1943.

They wouldn't stand a chance without USA directly involved into war, no chance.

And UK was just a fly on Reich's back without USA involved, Britain would be conquered sooner or later (without USA entering the war).

I am convinced that USA wouldn't enter into war if wasn't for Pearl Harbour, maybe it would enter in 1944 or 1945 but..., it would be too late by then.

EVEN if USA would develop nuclear bomb in 1945, without USSR in picture by 1943, I'm sure AXIS would develop Nuclear bomb for themselves and maybe even today we would live in some sort of Cold war where AXIS would dominate entire world except USA, who would be somethin like an outpost without AXIS influence.

Maybe South America wouldn't be touched by AXIS because of U.S. protection, except Argentina who would for sure be with AXIS, I mean we cannot know, but Im sure USSR would be defeated by 1943 if Japanese attacked USSR in COORDINATED attack with Reich, I don't see what would save USSR.

You make it sound like they were invented in a Soviet science lab.

Yeah

[Ziveth]

No, because Japanese + Reich soldiers/army would have been still too little compared to Soviet and US army (they had much more soldiers).

[ЛыSSый]

You make it sound like they were invented in a Soviet science lab.

for more fear

[Robocop]

And Roosevelt knew of the impending attack on Pearl Harbour just so the US can enter the war. Heck, he was probably cheering the Japanese on.

I know, Roosevelt probably made a party after that attack, but most happy person on Earth was Churchill.

P.S. I will never understand that Japanese move with attack P.Harbour, it was a stupid move. And durin entire war Japanese Empire and Reich didnt had some special contacts with each others, if they did, as I asked in this thread, with all out coordinated attack on USSR, history would probably be different..., who knows..