Turkey: Secular Country, Religious Flag.

[Proto-Shaman]

In a tradition about Kipchak-Khan, he said that before the battle, he had brought together all the spiritual leaders from his horde of different faiths to a common service, saying, "The more gods are on our side, the better it is for us!"

typical Turkic logic

[Proto-Shaman]

harbiden şu rudolph adli piç nerden çikti birden ya?

[Lavrentis]

I would say it's usually a sign that Turk is getting ready to enlarge , unwind and get ready to seep out.

I suppose it is funny in a nervous way .

What has Turks being confused got to do with Turks 'getting ready to seep out' ?

Kurds are kicking your asses, so don't get cocky.

[jackrussell]

What has Turks being confused got to do with Turks 'getting ready to seep out' ?

Kurds are kicking your asses, so don't get cocky.

Some small minority of Kurds are dying for the emperial interests like i said they would .

Meanwhile Turkish banks are giving cheap loans to Balkan Turks .

Kurds rather like a nice piece of Yunan arse ; I think we can ask Kurds to go and settle in newly liberated lands in Thrace .

We may even send the Syrians too .

I am not getting cocky ; you believe your own propaganda , a deadly mistake the ilk of Justinian always seems to make .

How many Kurds were in Cyprus before 1974 ?



Don't push it , you won't like it ; better give it up smooth and fast .

Did you just drop your soap in front of Kurdish Hasan ?

[Sekarotuinen]

Some small minority of Kurds are dying for the emperial interests like i said they would .

Meanwhile Turkish banks are giving cheap loans to Balkan Turks .

Kurds rather like a nice piece of Yunan arse ; I think we can ask Kurds to go and settle in newly liberated lands in Thrace .

We may even send the Syrians too .

I am not getting cocky ; you believe your own propaganda , a deadly mistake the ilk of Justinian always seems to make .

How many Kurds were in Cyprus before 1974 ?



Don't push it , you won't like it ; better give it up smooth and fast .

Did you just drop your soap in front of Kurdish Hasan ?

Turkey should encourage its diaspora to come back and boost the population and economy in Turkey.

[Freeroostah]

I think the Crescent Star was a Turkic symbol and then was adopted by Islam (Ottoman period)

[Thanas Django]

The notion that the Turk is only capable of violence is not based on truth .

I am not talking about the notion that the Turk is only capable of violence. I am just doing an observation derived on the historic data of how the Turk behaved in war situations since they arrived to the region.

[Gizem]

I think the Crescent Star was a Turkic symbol and then was adopted by Islam (Ottoman period)

At those times Islam was the same thing as Ottomans. So the rest of the world took any of their stuff as Islamic. In fact; the flag was designed in 1844; during the modernization/secularization period of the Empire.

From Wikipedia:


With the Tanzimat reforms in the 19th century, flags were redesigned in the style of the European armies of the day. The flag of the Ottoman Navy was made red, as red was to be the flag of secular institutions and green of religious ones.

It has been suggested that the star-and-crescent used in Ottoman flags of the 19th century had been adopted from the Byzantines. Franz Babinger (1992) suggests this possibility, noting that the crescent alone has a much older tradition also with Turkic tribes in the interior of Asia.[7] The crescent and star is found on the coinage of Byzantium since the 4th century BC[8] and was depicted on Byzantine Empire's coins and shields of Christian warrior saints till the 13th century.[9] Parsons (2007) notes that the star and crescent was not a widespread motive on the coinage of Byzantium at the time of the Ottoman conquest.[10] Turkish historians tend to stress the antiquity of the crescent (not star-and-crescent) symbol among the early Turkic states in Asia.

[jackrussell]

Turkey should encourage its diaspora to come back and boost the population and economy in Turkey.

This narrative you have is a dangerous one indeed .

If Germany wants Turks to leave then German Law would have to act against it's own principles ; which would mean one thing and one thing only ;

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law"


The diasporeans hardly ever come back ; instead they make home where they live .

[jackrussell]

I am not talking about the notion that the Turk is only capable of violence. I am just doing an observation derived on the historic data of how the Turk behaved in war situations since they arrived to the region.

I had to re-read this sentence to really see where you are coming from .

Historic Data you rely on to make a judgement call actually incomplete and doesn't reflect the Historical Truth .

You sound like an individual who believes in fairy tales.