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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    You have to respect Eritrean struggle for independence (30+ years)...Trench warfare was going on in Ethio-Eritrean border as recently as in like 1998. You Euros stopped that shit back in WW1, but Horners still have the crazy warrior 'we are proud cannon fodder' ethos.
    It doesn't excuse everything. The Oromos are still oppressed in Ethiopia. And even if Eritra has ceased to support al-Shabaab militias, Afewerki is a dictator who must leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    Firstly, Somaliland is not a country. Secondly, Somalia is on the worst of the worst list (as usual). Thirdly, no sane person actually believes that you've more civil liberties anywhere in the horn of Africa than in Russia.
    It's dejure recognized...which is really all that is needed.

    What is a 'country' anyway? Is Portugal a 'country' because it issues its own passport, when the United States via NATO provides all its defense needs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    Firstly, Somaliland is not a country. Secondly, Somalia is on the worst of the worst list (as usual). Thirdly, no sane person actually believes that you've more civil liberties anywhere in the horn of Africa than in Russia.
    Somaliland is de facto a sovereign country, with working institutions and banks. The only reason why UN doesn't recognize its independance, it's because it would achieve to plunge Somalia into chaos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    It's dejure recognized...which is really all that is needed.

    What is a 'country' anyway? Is Portugal a 'country' because it issues its own passport, when the United States via NATO provides all its defense needs?
    not "de jure" but "de facto"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    It doesn't excuse everything. The Oromos are still oppressed in Ethiopia. And even if Eritra has ceased to support al-Shabaab militias, Afewerki is a dictator who must leave.
    Yes, Oromos are oppressed indeed. My suggestion for the Oromo community is to come to Islam, and join their Muslim Oromo kin and fight Addis Ababa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    not "de jure" but "de facto"
    Oops...switched around the terms. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    Somaliland is de facto a sovereign country, with working institutions and banks. The only reason why UN doesn't recognize its independance, it's because it would achieve to plunge Somalia into chaos.
    I disagree. Somaliland is a working model...the UN does not want working models for SSA. SSA regimes do not want to trigger their own local secessionist movements, so Somaliland recognition will not come from no damn UN or African UNion

    The only time UN will recognize a country is when it serves Israel...like the creation of South Sudan, a completely Zionist project btw.

    Our best hope is if the USA takes our project (they wont, because the US wants to destroy Somali people)

    Second best hope is for South Africa to be the first to officially recognize us. This is the most likely scenario IMO. South Africa, then the UK (grudgingly), then the Arab countries and the AU grudgingly aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    It's dejure recognized...which is really all that is needed.

    What is a 'country' anyway? Is Portugal a 'country' because it issues its own passport, when the United States via NATO provides all its defense needs?
    It is a little lawless autonomous region, not recognized by no one as a state. It is hilarious how you now try to separate Somaliland from Somalia when it is virtually the same crap. It is clear you have no sense of patriotism or nationalism, not only you flee from there you also choose and pick up sides in accordance to what suits you.

    Portugal is actually one of the oldest sovereign independent states in the world, with one of the oldest armed forces as well (since XII century). We provide our own defense. It is not some non-recognized shithole historically born like literally "yesterday".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    It is a little lawless autonomous region, not recognized by no one as a state. It is hilarious how you now try to separate Somaliland from Somalia when it is virtually the same crap. It is clear you have no sense of patriotism or nationalism, not only you flee from there you also choose and pick up sides in accordance to what suits you.

    Portugal is actually one of the oldest sovereign independent states in the world, with one of the oldest armed forces as well (since XII century). We provide our own defense. It is not some non-recognized shithole historically born like literally "yesterday".
    Dont have the energy to correct your innacuracies...mostly because you are a overcompensating vegan and even your fellow countrymen dont take your pompous posts seriously. I rather discuss things with Big Smoke or Sebastianus or Endovelico

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    I disagree. Somaliland is a working model...the UN does not want working models for SSA. SSA regimes do not want to trigger their own local secessionist movements, so Somaliland recognition will not come from no damn UN.

    The only time UN will recognize a country is when it serves Israel...like the creation of South Sudan, a completely Zionist project btw.
    Concerning Somaliland, I never said the contrary. A tourist could travel there safely. But I don't share your opinion about Zionists. They have now lost their weight in the UN and have no interests in Central Africa. Granting independence to South Sudan was a mistake, it's a failed State with no future. As a sovereign and independent state, Somaliland would work, but then ex-Italian Somalia would loose its four wheels.

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