Iran: A Lost Potential

[Fractal]

Indians are considered the shittiest people in the whole world, even in the USA. Since they're amongst all kind of migrants, they get hidden.

And Southern Europeans are still considered as White as an Armenians or Persians ( who are just as white).

[EL_BARBARO]

What international peace force?

The good ones.

[EL_BARBARO]

And Southern Europeans are still considered as White as an Armenians or Persians ( who are just as white).

I don't give a fucking shit about "whiteness". That concept is really a concept and "value" that y'all the brown in America are willing even to kill the other.

[TheForeigner]

The good ones.

Ah, you must mean Americans might invade or bomb them.

[EL_BARBARO]

Ah, you must mean Americans might invade or bomb them.

Iranian people are looking forwards to freedom, democracy and wellfare.

[N1019]

When I look at Iran; I see a regime that just does not suit them, which is not the case for other countries ruled by islamic law like Saudi Arabia.

What makes you think the Saudis are happy about their rulers? Many of them would be happier to modernize, too, and they do it where they can.

Based on my interactions with Iranian tourists; they are not religious at all, they have a huge admiration for Ataturk. This reminds me of that scene from the movie Persepolis where it is mentioned that once their Shah wanted to imitate Atatürk's reforms, starting at around the 20-second mark:

The last Shah's father, Reza Shah, to a large degree enthusiastically followed in Ataturk's footsteps. He strove for independence, modernity, embarked on major nation building projects and tried to play off Britain, Russia and Germany against each other for Iran's benefit. For that and for refusing to submit, he was removed by the British and exiled to Mauritius, replaced by his son whom the British never trusted.

But why did these attempts fail and Iran turned into this? their sect might be one factor. In Shi'a; religious leaders are revered and that's why Khomeini was able to garner popular support even though most people did not really cheer for an Islamic revolution, as can be seen in this footage where women protested the dictation of hijab. So; similar to Turkish women; Iranian women had a desire for freedom and resisted against patriarchy:

Persian girls are known for their feistiness, which can be kind of sexy but also makes them a handful.

In the end, the CIA/MI6 controlled revolution didn't give them a choice. The people were asked whether they wanted an Islamic Republic (Yes/No). No alternative was offered.

Looking at the Cold War situation, there was no way the West was going to back the communists, who made up a significant (although fractious) component of the revolutionary tide. They were also not going to have a republican version of the Shah's secular nationalism. So they chose the Mullahs, with whom they already had an established relationship and whom they knew would oppose communism, oppose real democracy, keep the people on a tight leash, keep the oil flowing and hopefully remain loyal to the empire. They got every wish except the last.

Also unlike Turkey; Iran has oil resources so global powers did not just leave them alone and stirred chaos in the country which is why their democratically elected secularist patriotic leader Mosaddegh was overthrown by CIA.

Mossadegh was a fool for thinking he could take on the British and emerge victorious. The Americans were right to back their plan to remove him. If they hadn't, the British may have gone to war - they certainly contemplated it, but wanted to avoid the expense. It's hard not to admire his passion for Iran, but it was never going to work. The same could be said of the Shah for his own reasons. He started off as a fragile young king but eventually became a megalomaniac who forgot he was put there by a greater power. This is the common thread. Repeated attempts to go it alone, be strong, independent, break free of foreign interference, control the Gulf and, probably, rebuild an empire of sorts. It will not be allowed to happen. The Iranians will continue to encounter extreme difficulties with the world until they can adjust their mindset, or war reduces their nation to dust. It now appears they have chosen the latter course.

Next station: Iran.

Yep

[Dominicanese]

wellp looks like the USA is gonna fuck up Iran next

then it will be lebanon, a repeat of the 6 day war but for good

iraq is done, so is libya

now iran will be done too, sadly theres gonna go another 1,000,000 dead (including women & children) all for greed and money

[Numidia]

wellp looks like the USA is gonna fuck up Iran next

then it will be lebanon, a repeat of the 6 day war but for good

iraq is done, so is libya

now iran will be done too, sadly theres gonna go another 1,000,000 dead (including women & children) all for greed and money

what make you say that ? the population of Iran must be more than 80 millions

[Dominicanese]

what make you say that ? the population of Iran must be more than 80 millions

my desire is for iran to thrive

but the US likes to fuck up other nations for global domination

[Lessenech]

The Islamic Republic is a better government than Mohammed Reza ever was. Iran is largely independent now, Mohammed Reza was subservient to the West.

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