Amerindians are an ancient Eurasian race and closest to Central Asians

[Vascontelo]

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 16.9
2 Steppe_IA 18.17
3 Uzbek 22.01
4 Tajik 23.15
5 Russian 23.75
6 GoyetQ116 24.82
7 Balkar 25.28
8 Finnish 25.57
9 Turkish 26.91
10 Bulgarian 27.52
11 Romanian 27.92
12 Kumyk 28.01
13 Steppe_MLBA 28.24
14 Ukrainian 28.33
15 Hungarian 28.34
16 Croatian 28.8
17 Adygei 29.22
18 Czech 29.55
19 Greek 29.67
20 Albanian 29.73

[Maguzanci]

You guys make it more complicated than it is. Some of the ANE people bouncing around central-north Eurasia migrated east picking up East Asian like admixture and some other minor things, created the Amerindians, period. Do not try to go too much backward and sideways always mixing ancient with modern, they have no European or modern West Eurasian per say, although ANE contributed to West Eurasia at several points so we have something in common since some of the ANE also did split and went west, before and after their genesis.

All we can say is they have retained the most ANE today.

Thank you. I just wonder why older PCAs often show Amerindians as clustering linear to East Asians instead of being in the middle of Eurasia intermediate between Western and Eastern? Is that because those PCAs are made before the discovery of ANE? Also why is Han often used to represent East Asian-like ancestry in Amerindians?

[Iloko]

No wonder many Native Americans can have a Dinarid look to them as well as lower degrees of prognathism as that of a Caucasian.

[Lucas]

In gedmatch calculators without the Amerindian component, the populations with closest genetic distance to Native Americans are Central Asians like Kazakh, Uzbek, Uyghur, Kyrgyz, etc who are genetically Eurasians" than actually Mongoloids as they are heavily West Eurasian admixed.

Native American results using Eurogenes Eutest

some results of 100% Amerindians

Nope. You simply don't understand how two dimensional PCA works It's not a proof of anything.

In many PCA from gedmatch calcs we have in the center also SSA or Oceanians. All this thread is wrong from the begining.

[Isleño]

Nope. You simply don't understand how two dimensional PCA works It's not a proof of anything.

In many PCA from gedmatch calcs we have in the center also SSA or Oceanians. All this thread is wrong from the begining.

Here's a 3D PCA plot

http://www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/PCA84pops.html

[VVermillion]

Native americans crossed the Beringa Strait so they should be related to the Siberians, Mongols, and Central Asians for sure. The mestizos/metis genetically would kinda distantly mirror Central Asians who are Eurasians.

[Lucas]

Here's a 3D PCA plot

http://www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/PCA84pops.html

As I said, Amerindian are very distant from others. But if make snapshot of 2D view for one moment there are nearly "on" Europe.

[Maguzanci]

Native americans crossed the Beringa Strait so they should be related to the Siberians, Mongols, and Central Asians for sure. The mestizos/metis genetically would kinda distantly mirror Central Asians who are Eurasians.

Indeed regarding relations to Siberians/Northern Asians and Central Asians. Actually pure Native Americans can also genetically mirrored Central Asians. I remember this PCA that some Amerindian populations were plotting close to the Kyrgyz who are Central Asians in terms of Eastern and Western Eurasian ancestral percentages. And another PCA where one Native American group is closer to Kyrgyz while another group is closer to Nepalis.

[Zuh]

I think this is a truly great thread so i bump

[Synapsid]

I think this is a truly great thread so i bump

I thought you hated Native Americans.