Page 1 of 18 1234511 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 180

Thread: Amerindians are an ancient Eurasian race and closest to Central Asians

  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Last Online
    02-06-2021 @ 03:30 PM
    Location
    Zanzibar
    Ethnicity
    None
    Country
    Ethiopia
    Religion
    Animism
    Gender
    Posts
    5,082
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,703
    Given: 5,603

    8 Not allowed!

    Default Amerindians are an ancient Eurasian race and closest to Central Asians

    LOL at the notion that Amerindians are part of the "Mongoloid" race. They are actually their own separate ancient Eurasian race. They can be described as Eurasian at most but not Mongoloids.

    If I remember correctly, Petalpusher stated once that Amerindians are actually situated best in the middle of Eurasia which is approximately Central Asia in PCA.

    This PCA demonstrated well where Amerindians are located in terms of their Eurasian affinities

    As one can see here, Amerindians are closest to South-Central Asians. There are two Amerindian clusters, one that is closer to Kyrgyz (not sure which Native pop) and one that is closer to Nepalis (not sure which Native but probably Bolivian).




    For those who considered Native Americans as part of the "Mongoloid" race, they also have to consider Papuans, Australian Aborigines as "Mongoloid" as well as both groups are in the same Mega Eastern Non-African genetic group with "Mongoloids" but don't really cluster with them (Mongoloids).

    As one can see, both are equidistant from Mongoloids aka Eastern Asians.

    Last edited by Maguzanci; 07-11-2017 at 01:59 PM.

  2. #2
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Last Online
    02-06-2021 @ 03:30 PM
    Location
    Zanzibar
    Ethnicity
    None
    Country
    Ethiopia
    Religion
    Animism
    Gender
    Posts
    5,082
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,703
    Given: 5,603

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    In gedmatch calculators without the Amerindian component, the populations with closest genetic distance to Native Americans are Central Asians like Kazakh, Uzbek, Uyghur, Kyrgyz, etc who are genetically Eurasians" than actually Mongoloids as they are heavily West Eurasian admixed.

    Native American results using Eurogenes Eutest

    some results of 100% Amerindians
    Spoiler!

    Some Ancient Natives

    Spoiler!

    Slightly admixed Natives

    Spoiler!
    Last edited by Maguzanci; 07-11-2017 at 10:31 AM.

  3. #3
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Last Online
    02-06-2021 @ 03:30 PM
    Location
    Zanzibar
    Ethnicity
    None
    Country
    Ethiopia
    Religion
    Animism
    Gender
    Posts
    5,082
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,703
    Given: 5,603

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Furthermore, 40-50% of Amerindian ancestry are ANE/Mal'ta Boy, which is much much closer to Western Non-African/Western Eurasian clusters than to Eastern Non-African/East Eurasian. In fact, if ANE is simply thought of as 2/3 WNA+1/3 ENA, Amerindians would be around 25-40% West Eurasian-related. This puts them around Central Asians in terms of ENA and WNA affinities.

    And Central Asia or Eurasia is where where they should actually be located on PCAs not near East Asians.

    Gedrosia K6 is a calculator that gives a rough idea of the West Eurasian and Eastern Non-African proportions of Amerindians. DO NOT TAKE the population distance literally as it is ONLY showing the Eastern Non-African affinities and scores of the populations rather than actual genetic distance.

    Again, the point of this calculator is the West Eurasian and Eastern Non-African percentages of Native Americans and not the genetic dsitance.

    100% Amerindians
    Spoiler!


    Ancient Natives
    Spoiler!


    Slightly Euro admixed Amerindians
    Spoiler!

  4. #4
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Last Online
    02-06-2021 @ 03:30 PM
    Location
    Zanzibar
    Ethnicity
    None
    Country
    Ethiopia
    Religion
    Animism
    Gender
    Posts
    5,082
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,703
    Given: 5,603

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Bump.

  5. #5
    Veteran Member Apricity Funding Member
    "Friend of Apricity"


    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Last Online
    Today @ 01:18 PM
    Ethnicity
    British and Colombian
    Country
    Wales
    Gender
    Posts
    74,243
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 26,201
    Given: 43,734

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    Yes, some Amerindians and Indo-Mestizos actually look closer to South Asians rather than East Asians.

  6. #6
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Last Online
    02-06-2021 @ 03:30 PM
    Location
    Zanzibar
    Ethnicity
    None
    Country
    Ethiopia
    Religion
    Animism
    Gender
    Posts
    5,082
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,703
    Given: 5,603

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Yes, some Amerindians and Indo-Mestizos actually look closer to South Asians rather than East Asians.
    As in phenotypes or genetics wise?

    In terms of genetics, the closest population to Amerindians besides Latin Americans are Central Asians who are West and Eastern Eurasian intermediates rather than actually East Asians aka Mongoloids.

  7. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Last Online
    02-19-2020 @ 11:36 AM
    Location
    Hungaristan
    Ethnicity
    Proud citizen of Hungaristan
    Country
    Hungary
    Politics
    Pro-Circumcision, Gorid Nationalism
    Hero
    Ultra
    Religion
    Anti-Antimage
    Gender
    Posts
    9,325
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 5,956
    Given: 9,127

    2 Not allowed!

    Default

    Makes perfect sense they're not genetically mongoloid because well, they don't look like they're mongoloids. Afaik southern american natives can also have polynesian admixture,polynesians reached southern america and settled there or so I heard.

  8. #8
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Last Online
    02-06-2021 @ 03:30 PM
    Location
    Zanzibar
    Ethnicity
    None
    Country
    Ethiopia
    Religion
    Animism
    Gender
    Posts
    5,082
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,703
    Given: 5,603

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Antimage View Post
    Makes perfect sense they're not genetically mongoloid because well, they don't look like they're mongoloids. Afaik southern american natives can also have polynesian admixture,polynesians reached southern america and settled there or so I heard.
    Definitely. They can be described as Eurasian or half Eastern Non-African at best. I disagree with those who considered them Mongoloid when they crossed to the Americas much earlier than the formation of modern day East Asian aka Mongoloids.

    Yes there might also be Polynesian admix in South America although it is very negligible and insignificant in terms of admix

  9. #9
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Last Online
    02-06-2021 @ 03:30 PM
    Location
    Zanzibar
    Ethnicity
    None
    Country
    Ethiopia
    Religion
    Animism
    Gender
    Posts
    5,082
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,703
    Given: 5,603

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    I will post results of Central Asians to compared with Amerindians

  10. #10
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Last Online
    04-20-2019 @ 06:57 PM
    Location
    West Africa
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Voodoo
    Ethnicity
    Anthropofagist + Ifá Practitioner
    Ancestry
    Jumanji
    Country
    Haiti
    Region
    Estado de Durango
    Y-DNA
    I1
    Taxonomy
    Bantuid + some Veddoid (1/128) + Kaffirid (1/555)
    Politics
    Papa Doc
    Hero
    Idi Amin + Kmack
    Religion
    Voodoo
    Relationship Status
    I killed my 4 wives
    Age
    66
    Gender
    Posts
    5,855
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4,378
    Given: 3,032

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    Nice thread. Good anthropology contribution instead of the usual blabbering about who's lighter.

    Which percentage is the best for the Amerindians West Eurasian ancestry? 25% or 50%?

Page 1 of 18 1234511 ... LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 112
    Last Post: 07-27-2020, 07:16 AM
  2. Replies: 37
    Last Post: 11-16-2019, 04:06 AM
  3. Do SE Asians have some West Eurasian ancestry?
    By Maguzanci in forum Autosomal DNA
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: 04-25-2017, 11:24 PM
  4. White Race Among the Ancient South Americans
    By Ánleifr in forum History
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 01-30-2017, 07:32 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •