Where did your ancestors live in 1914

[Wanderer]

Yea, from some unreasonable reasons...



So, why you are trying to be?
You are not an Ukrainian.

It's not a simple yes or no. Clearly, my Ukrainian ancestry influences my perspective.

[Rethel]

It's not a simple yes or no.

Yes, it is - it is very simple. either you
are or not. In your case - you are not.

Clearly, my Ukrainian ancestry

You have no ukrainain ancestore - null, zero, nada.
You have some ascendants, but they doesn;t matter.

influences my perspective.

So you have wrong perspective. They
lied to you. Time to absorbed the truth.

[Wanderer]

Yes, it is - it is very simple. either you
are or not. In your case - you are not.



You have no ukrainain ancestore - null, zero, nada.
You have some ascendants, but they doesn;t matter.



So you have wrong perspective. They
lied to you. Time to absorbed the truth.

I didn't expect a cogent reply from you, and I was not surprised. In fact, your reply fell decidedly short of my already-meager expectations. There's nothing here to even respond to.

[Rethel]

I didn't expect a cogent reply from you,

For someone who do not want
to be convinst, nothing is cogent.

Just simple: you have zero ukranian ancestors,
you do not live on Ukraine so you obviously are
not one. What is so hard in that to understand?

How an Italian born and living in America
can be an Ukr??? HHHOOOWWW????

I allready get it, that you had lack of male's
benchmark and you were abused ideologicly
by your mommy and granny, but now you're
adult and time to abandoned this pantywaist
dreams, if you were not inteligent enaugh to
figure it out earlier, and face the reality.

If your family would live here in 1945, you would be NOT
counted as Ukrainains, and would NOT be resettled on
Ukraine. Even such people as communists and Soviets
knew this, but you - a guy from the West - don't.

[Nemo]

*Yawn*

Tyumen, Russia
Kobe, Japan
Copenhagen, Denmark
Mumbai, India

[Rethel]

*Yawn*

Tyumen, Russia
Kobe, Japan
Copenhagen, Denmark
Mumbai, India

Wow! Really?
Show your picture?

[ÁGUIA]

Chaves, Trás-os-Montes.

[Wanderer]

For someone who do not want
to be convinst, nothing is cogent.

No - I am quite open to persuasion. I just don't find you very persuasive.

Just simple: you have zero ukranian ancestors,

I know this statement makes perfect sense in your crazy mind, but obviously it doesn't exactly ring true to me.

you do not live on Ukraine so you obviously are
not one. What is so hard in that to understand?

How an Italian born and living in America
can be an Ukr??? HHHOOOWWW????

lol

I allready get it, that you had lack of male's
benchmark and you were abused ideologicly
by your mommy and granny,

All of that is completely false. Frankly, at one point I was taking my Ukrainian nationalism to a totally absurd extreme. I do admit that. My sentiments went so far beyond what anyone in my family espouses or has ever impressed upon me. For my own mental well-being, however, I am moving beyond that, or at least endeavoring to do so. Being Ukrainian was never one big political statement for me. It was just this ancestral place of reference; the experience of its culture and identity have been of a vestigial nature for me. Unfortunately, recent events have forever changed this perspective for me. I have felt compelled to embrace an extreme position. In reality, however, this was doing nothing for me, and nothing for the Ukrainian cause either, and is simply beyond the scope of any personal moral obligation I may have to family or Ukraine or whatever.

[MysteriousWays]

Fully in United States at that time.

[Rethel]

It was just this ancestral place of reference; the experience of its culture and identity have been of a vestigial nature for me.

Unfortunatly false...

Fully in United States at that time.

Native American!

Or Unitedstatean?