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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Abubu View Post
    Utter and complete nonsense with no substance to it.
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    No self respecting person would ever care about a Jew that most probably never existed. Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism, and it's pretty much in the same basket as other Abrahamic religions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
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    Argumentation is throwing out a lot of unsubstantiated claims now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    Many erudites now believe that the expression "Son of God", was meant in a metaphorical sense, as "son of the Creation". It's the apostle Paul who called Jesus Christ the “firstborn over all creation”. The Monophysites believed that there was only one divine nature in Jesus Christ, whereas Arians, Nestorians and Gnostics taught that Jesus Christ had two separate and distinct natures: Human and divine.
    But Jesus Christ probably referred himself as a reformer who wanted Judaism to evolve towars more accessible, less elitarian conception. Jesus Christ never founded any new religion. It's Paul the Apostle who really created Christianity.
    How can a Human being have divine qualities? He tried to subvert Judaism, that's all he did.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    No self respecting person would ever care about a Jew that most probably never existed. Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism, and it's pretty much in the same basket as other Abrahamic religions.
    he most probably EXISTED.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gold-Shekel View Post
    How can a Human being have divine qualities? He tried to subvert Judaism, that's all he did.
    That's what Paul of Tarsus, theologians and the various councils decided. Real life Yeshua Ha-Nozri was probably nothing more than a hippie.

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    I never called Jesus a Jew. I called Jesus a Nazarene.

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    He was an Aramean wasn't he? In any case he was culturally Jewish

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    He identified Himself as the Messiah (Mk. 14:61-62) and as we know from the Bible, the Messiah should be from David's seed.

    Jesus is a descendant of the Jewish king David: "Remember Jesus Christ, risen from the dead, of the seed of David, according to my Good News." (2Tim. 2:8)

    When Pilate asked him, "Are you the King of the Jews?" Jesus answered, "So you say." (Mark 15:2)

    The Jewish crowd called Him "King of the Jews : "Pilate answered the Jewish crowd: "What then do you want me to do with Him whom you call the King of the Jews?" (Mk. 15:12)

    Pilate answering Jesus, "I'm not a Jew, am I? Your own nation and the chief priests delivered you to me. What have you done?" (John 18:35)

    He was from the Tribe of Judah, His earthly father was descended from David (Matt. 1:6-16) and His mother was as well (Luke 1:27, 32-34, 3:23-31)

    He was born of a Jewish mother, in a Jewish town, all of His disciples, friends, neighbors were Jews and they called Him "Rabbi" (John 4:31)

    He was circumcised according to Jewish law (Luke 2:21, Lev. 12:2-3)

    He prayed and read in Jewish synagogues on the Sabbath (Luke 4:16)

    ...and His teaching was respected by the other congregants (Luke 4:15)

    He taught in Jewish Temples (Luke 21:37)

    He observed Sukkot (John 7:2, 10) and Hanukkah (John 10:22) and Rosh Hashanah (John 5:1)

    The outward signs, such as as wearing Jewish tassels on His clothing (Luke 8:43, Matt. 14:36)

    He affirmed the authority of the Torah and the Prophets (Matthew 5:17)

    When He healed a man from leprosy, He instructed him to,"show yourself to the priest and present the offering that Moses commanded..."(Matthew 8:4, Lev. 14)

    He was charged with an offense against Jewish Law (Matt. 26:65-66, Lev. 24:13-14, John 19:7)

    When faced with temptation, Jesus answered from the Hebrew Scripture (Matt. 4:2-10, Deut. 8:3, 6:16, 6:13)

    He was buried according to Jewish custom (John 19:40)

    He is called "The Consolation of Israel" (Luke 2:25) and "The Glory of The People Israel" (Luke 2:32)




    Apparently, Jesus was not a Jew.
    Last edited by Pulsa Dinura; 07-15-2017 at 05:07 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Segata Sanshiro View Post
    He was an Aramean wasn't he? In any case he was culturally Jewish
    In fact, He was a Jew with an Aramaic culture.
    "And God said "Love Your Enemy", and I obeyed Him and loved myself." - Gibran Khalil

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