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    The Double-Headed Eagle: An Everlasting Symbol of Power





    The double-headed eagle has been a popular symbol associated with the concept of a powerful Empire. Most contemporary uses of the symbol are exclusively associated with its use by the Byzantine Empire and the Greek Orthodox Church. However, the double-headed eagle has been in use for thousands of years – way before the Greeks identify it with the Byzantine Empire and Orthodox religion – while its original meaning is debated among scholars.

    Early Origins

    The eagle was a common symbol representing power in ancient Greek city-states. In Greek mythology, there was an implication of a "dual-eagle" concept in the tale that Zeus let two eagles fly East and West from the ends of the world with them eventually meeting in Delphi thus proving it to be the center of the earth. According to many historians, however, the two-headed eagle appears to be of Hittite origin. Early examples of the symbol come from the Hittite empire in central Anatolia, where two-headed eagles can be found on seals and also on sculptures. Interestingly, some of those sculptures also have other beasts in their claws and appear to be the symbol of the ruler standing on it. Thus, the two-headed eagle could have been the symbol of the tribe of the ruler but also of the ruler himself. After the Hittite two-headed eagles there is a gap of almost two millennia to be filled. In the meantime, the emblem of the supreme commander in the Hellenistic world was a monstrous head, being the head of the army personified by Medusa or Nike (Goddess of Victory).
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    A variety of eagle insignias from different empires. Top: Heraldic double-headed displayed eagle. Bottom: Heraldic displayed eagle.





    1. Eagle from Spanish Empire, 2. Eagle from Spanish Empire, 3. Eagle from Holy Roman Empire, 4. Eagle from Holy Roman Empire, 5. Eagle from Russian Empire. 6. Eagle of Saladin, 7. Eagle from New Kingdom of Granada, 8. Eagle from New Kingdom of Granada, 9. Eagle from German Empire, 10. Eagle from Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth

    Later Re-emergence

    The famous symbol re-appears again thousands of years later, during the Early Middle Ages, around the 10th century, where it was mainly used as the absolute symbol of the Byzantine Empire. It is suggested that the early Byzantine Empire inherited the Roman eagle as an imperial symbol. During his reign, Emperor Isaac I Comnenus (1057–1059) modified it as double-headed, influenced by traditions about such a beast in his native Paphlagonia in Asia Minor. After the recapture of Constantinople by the Byzantine Greeks in 1261, two crowns were added (one over each head) representing the newly recaptured capital and the intermediate "capital" of the empire of Nicaea.

    In the following two centuries (11th and 12th), representations of the symbol were also found in Islamic Spain, France and Bulgaria, while from the 13th century onward it becomes more and more widespread. In the meantime the two-headed eagle was adopted by the Islamic world as well, especially after the fall of the Seljuq Empire and the restoration of the temporal power of the Caliphate of Bagdad in 1157. This is testified mainly by coins bearing a two-headed eagle and from the vassals of the Caliphate.




    Islamic Coin post Seljuk. Nasir al-Din Mahmud, 1200-1222 AD. With double-headed eagle displayed on ornamental base.




    The Eagle in India

    Even more impressively, the two-headed bird is also found in Indian culture. Known as “Gandhabherunda” in India, the symbol has the same Hittite origin as the two-headed eagle in the West. A myth says that Vishnu assumed the form of a two-headed eagle to annihilate Sarabha, a form taken by Shiva to destroy Narasimha (an avatar of Vishnu) again, a sectarian device to humble a rival creed. Such a bird appears at Sirkap Stupa which usually is dated at about the beginning of the Christian era. It is depicted there sitting and turned to the dexter and this seems to have been the common attitude for centuries. It can also be found on a fresco in Brihadiswara Temple, consecrated 1010, and much later on a 16th century Vijayanagar coin.



    Double-headed eagle representation at Sirkap Stuka, the Indo-Greek archaeological site, Pakistan (1st century BC to 1st century AD)

    Double-headed eagle representation at Sirkap Stupa, the Indo-Greek archaeological site, Pakistan (1st century BC to 1st century AD) (Public Domain)

    Identification with Byzantine Empire and Eastern Orthodox Church

    However, it was Christianity that ultimately arrogated the symbol. The now widely-recognized yellow with a black crowned double-headed eagle flag, became the symbol of the Palaiologoi family, the last Greek royal family to rule the Byzantine Empire before the fall of Constantinople in 1453. As already mentioned, after Emperor Michael VIII Palaiologos recaptured Constantinople from the Crusaders in 1261, he adopted the double-headed eagle which symbolized the dynasty's interests in both Asia and Europe.

    During these two centuries of the dynasty’s reign though, the flag became identified not just with the specific family but with the Empire itself. Additionally, in the eyes of the Byzantines the double-headed eagle gradually became the absolute symbol of Orthodoxy, symbolizing the unity between the Byzantine Orthodox Church and State, which was governed by the principle of “Symphonia”, thus the "symphony" between the civil and the ecclesiastical functions of Byzantine Orthodox society.
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    Emblem of the Palaiologos Dynasty. The double-headed eagle motif was used as the emblem of the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Empire) during the 14th and 15th centuries

    Emblem of the Palaiologos Dynasty. The double-headed eagle motif was used as the emblem of the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Empire) during the 14th and 15th centuries (Public Domain)

    In addition, the heads of the eagle also represented the dual sovereignty of the Byzantine Emperor, with the left head representing Rome (the Western part) and the right head representing Constantinople – the Hellenistic part of the Empire.




    Its Spread in the West and Modern Use

    Apparently, when the Holy Crusaders passed through Constantinople on their way to what is now Israel, they most likely first came in contact with the impressive double-headed symbol embroidered in gold on heavy banners of silk, borne aloft by the Seljuk Turks. It was from the Turks and not the Byzantines, as some may falsely think, that the crusaders took this banner to adorn the courts of Charlemagne and hung as a sacred relic in the great cathedrals.

    Old Jerusalem, Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Greek Orthodox chapel - Prison of Jesus. On the floor, in front of the chapel, is a mosaic figure of a crowned double headed eagle - symbol of the Byzantine empire and the Greek Orthodox church.

    Old Jerusalem, Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Greek Orthodox chapel - Prison of Jesus. On the floor, in front of the chapel, is a mosaic figure of a crowned double headed eagle - symbol of the Byzantine empire and the Greek Orthodox church. (CC BY 2.0)

    Frederick of Prussia is the one to “blame” for popularizing the eagle symbol throughout Western Europe, as he was the one who supplied the emblem during the formative stages of the Rite, even though he or Prussia couldn’t use it exclusively as their own. In England we find it used upon knightly arms. Most notably Robert George Gentleman displayed it upon his shield, with the motto, "Truth, Honour and Courtesy." In France, it became popular by Count de Montamajeur, who associated with the motto, "I shall hold myself erect and not blink,” and in Italy we find it upon the arms of the Duke of Modena in 1628 under the motto "No age can destroy it."

    Double-headed eagle on the main entrance gate of the Hermitage Museum in Saint Petersburg.

    Double-headed eagle on the main entrance gate of the Hermitage Museum in Saint Petersburg. (CC BY SA 3.0)

    As for its modern use? It remains the absolute symbol of the Greek Orthodox Church, while it is often seen in the world of sports. Several football (soccer) clubs across Europe, bear the double-headed eagle in their insignia, with the Greek sport club of AEK – Athletic Union of Constantinople – which was founded by Greek refugees who fled to Greece from Constantinople in the 1920s, being the most popular and successful of them.

    AEK Athens Football Club insignia.

    AEK Athens Football Club insignia. (bluemaize)

    Top image: In the Market Square is Helsinki’s oldest public monument, the Tsarina’s Stone, topped by a globe and a double-headed eagle, the emblem used by the Tsars of Russia (CC BY-SA 2.0)

    http://www.ancient-origins.net/artif...l-power-008244

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    I don't even know what the angle you're trying to get at is here. You have taken the first source you could find that you thought would somehow prove your narrative, although it's just some obscure alternative history website, and posted it not really knowing or understanding what it says. The author can't even write an article coherently, although he supposedly was educated at Cambridge, and is a legal historian, although it isn't more specific than that.

    In his ignorance, he ties it to Charlemagne, the Crusaders and the Seljuks, which makes no sense. Charlemagne never used the double-headed eagle, nor did any of the Frankish kings or the Holy Roman Empire. The Seljuk Turks are too late chronologically, and they only adopted it in the 13th century after conquering most of Anatolia from the Byzantines. They adopted it from the Byzantines...

    The article itself even states that it's some two thousand years between the time the Hittites use it until it appears again with the Byzantines. But with the Byzantines the symbolism is very clear: two Romes, east and west, the Second Rome and the Second Jerusalem.

    What is important, though, is that even if the Byzantines had time machines and went back two thousand years to steal the double-headed eagle, it was a Byzantine-Orthodox symbol by the time Skanderbeg adopted it. He knew what it meant and the symbolism is lost today. It dishonours Skanderbeg and what he fought for, which was not the secularist nation-state and its Freemasonic principles.
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    Roman.

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    Fun fact: Aeschylus was accidentally killed when an eagle dropped a tortoise on his bald head, mistaking him for a stone.

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    It`s an old symbol used during the history by many people, cultures and empires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post
    It`s an old symbol used during the history by many people, cultures and empires.
    Yes but we adopted it from the Romans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olive picker View Post
    Yes but we adopted it from the Romans.
    This is the most plausible theory, there are other theories also. And we kept it with honor.

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    And the bald eagle represent Murican freedom.


    Coca Cola, foot ball and a bald eagle warm in a home. American as fuck. God bless.

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    Shield pattern of the palatine legion of Herculiani seniores, according to Notitia Dignitatum.
    Legio VI Herculia
    Legio VI Herculia was a Roman legion levied by Diocletian in the end of the 3rd century, and was still in service at the beginning of the 5th century. The cognomen of the legion refers to Hercules, to whom Diocletian's colleague, Maximian (also known as Herculius, "the man like Hercules"), was devoted and identified.

    In the tetrarchs provincial reforms, the province of Pannonia Inferior was divided into two, the northern part became Pannonia Valeria and the southern part became Pannonia Secunda. However the two legions of the province was stationed in the north at Brigetio and Aquincum leaving the southern province without any legions stationed there. The tetrarchs levied two more legions, Legio VI Herculia and Legio V Iovia. The VI Herculia had her permanent camp in Teutoburgium (near modern Vukovar ) and an advanced castellum in Onagrinum. They also protected the imperial residence of Diocletian in Sirmium which was also the provincial capital of the province and the Praetorian prefecture of Illyricum.

    The Notitia Dignitatum locates the legion still in Illyricum at the beginning of the 5th century.[1]

    It is possible that some men from this legion and from the V Iovia formed the Herculians and Jovians, the new imperial bodyguard of Diocletian. If this identification is correct, VI Herculia men had the appellative Martiobarbuli, since they were expert in throwing small darts, martiobarbuli, carried by five in the inside of their shields.[2]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post

    Shield pattern of the palatine legion of Herculiani seniores, according to Notitia Dignitatum.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legio_VI_Herculia
    Diocletian was an Illyrian born in today's Dalmatia, Croatia, and the flag is very similar to the Albanian flag today so it makes sense.

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