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    No chance. Iran will be untouched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawing-slim View Post
    No chance. Iran will be untouched.
    In your dreams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawing-slim View Post
    No chance. Iran will be untouched.
    it already backfired https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...foreign-policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    In your dreams.
    I agree it was planed but simply it cannot happened. Iran might even be able to built its nuclear bomb break the agreement and still not be attacked. Americans will never support a war with iran at this point, never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    Oh man, Trita Parsi... Iran groupie no. 1. The election of Trump really killed his boner. But seriously, he's totally ignoring the true purpose of the JCPOA. He's falling for the plausible deniability element of the deal, i.e. making it appear that America does not want war (and instead made a fantastic offer to Iran), and he's carrying on with the fallacy that the only alternative to the deal was war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawing-slim View Post
    I agree it was planed but simply it cannot happened. Iran might even be able to built its nuclear bomb break the agreement and still not be attacked. Americans will never support a war with iran at this point, never.
    Yeah, but it's always the way. They didn't want to enter WWI or II, either. Without 9/11 they might not have supported Afghanistan and Iraq. And look at Syria and Libya - they took a different approach and those countries were still destroyed. The people can be maniipulated into just about anything. Start blowing shit up, blame it on Iran and the patriots will want blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    Yeah, but it's always the way. They didn't want to enter WWI or II, either. Without 9/11 they might not have supported Afghanistan and Iraq. And look at Syria and Libya - they took a different approach and those countries were still destroyed. The people can be maniipulated into just about anything. Start blowing shit up, blame it on Iran and the patriots will want blood.
    What about that recent supposed ISIS attack that happened several weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    What about that recent supposed ISIS attack that happened several weeks ago.
    Well, yeah. I love the way the IRI government dismissed it as nothing, just some firecrackers. They must have been shitting bricks. The whole image of Iran's being an island of stability (which is stolen from Carter's 31Dec1977 speech to the Shah) is in tatters.

    Whoever planned that attack struck right at the heart of the "revolution". The death toll was low but it was a symbolic act.

    It was also probably an intel gathering exercise. They can see how the state forces responded etc.

    It's reasonable to assume that there will be more attacks as time goes on and whoever they are has time to regroup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    Well, yeah. I love the way the IRI government dismissed it as nothing, just some firecrackers. They must have been shitting bricks. The whole image of Iran's being an island of stability (which is stolen from Carter's 31Dec1977 speech to the Shah) is in tatters.

    Whoever planned that attack struck right at the heart of the "revolution". The death toll was low but it was a symbolic act.
    So at this point, its either attack iran or attack iran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    So at this point, its either attack iran or attack iran
    It seems to me that Iran was always the final target of the current wave of attacks on middle eastern states. They went after every non-compliant regime in the region, and now Iran is the only one still left intact. There's no good reason why it too won't be taken out.

    Iran was left until last because it is the biggest challenge, and they wanted it to be as isolated as possible beforehand.

    The arguments I see might have some merit but I think they are just wishful thinking from decent people who don't want to see another country destroyed. We have to be honest with ourselves, look at the patterns of past behaviour and so on, and ask, Why should America and her allies stop now? They have no good reason to stop. Destroying non-compliant states is what they do.

    The only alternative is possibly for Iran to totally submit to the Anglo-American/Israeli demands. While some people have speculated that it is happening behind closed doors, I'm not buying it. I could be wrong. I hope I am, but at the moment I can't see it.

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