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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    It seems to me that Iran was always the final target of the current wave of attacks on middle eastern states. They went after every non-compliant regime in the region, and now Iran is the only one still left intact. There's no good reason why it too won't be taken out.

    Iran was left until last because it is the biggest challenge, and they wanted it to be as isolated as possible beforehand.

    The arguments I see might have some merit but I think they are just wishful thinking from decent people who don't want to see another country destroyed. We have to be honest with ourselves, look at the patterns of past behaviour and so on, and ask, Why should America and her allies stop now? They have no good reason to stop. Destroying non-compliant states is what they do.

    The only alternative is possibly for Iran to totally submit to the Anglo-American/Israeli demands. While some people have speculated that it is happening behind closed doors, I'm not buying it. I could be wrong. I hope I am, but at the moment I can't see it.
    yea i doubt that will happen tbh, theres just no way.

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    Trump is allegedly trying to bypass the Department of State in seeking a path to "decertifying" Iran's compliance with the JCPOA in October.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/21/...te-department/


    According to right wing sources (for what they are worth), people like Sahar Nowruzzadeh were involved in the JCPOA and Iran policy in the White House and at State, and are trying to force the executive to accept that Iran is in compliance, which was obviously not the purpose of the JCPOA to begin with. Finding Iran non-compliant with the nuclear deal as justification for an escalation of hostilities was always the name of the game.

    Nowruzzadeh was labelled as an Iranian spy by Zionists and right wing mouthpieces generally. Whether or not she is a spy, it seems plausible that an Iranian-American with ties to the NIAC and Trita Parsi might not be interested in pursuing war with Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    Trump is allegedly trying to bypass the Department of State in seeking a path to "decertifying" Iran's compliance with the JCPOA in October.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/21/...te-department/


    According to right wing sources (for what they are worth), people like Sahar Nowruzzadeh were involved in the JCPOA and Iran policy in the White House and at State, and are trying to force the executive to accept that Iran is in compliance, which is obviously not the purpose of the JCPOA to begin with. Finding Iran non-compliant with the nuclear deal as justification for an escalation of hostilities was always what the game was about. Nowruzzadeh was labelled as a spy by Zionists and right wing mouthpieces generally. Whether she is or not, it seems plausible that an Iranian-American with ties to the NIAC and Trita Parsi might not be interested in pursuing war with Iran.
    Would this be a good thing or bad thing bro lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    Would this be a good thing or bad thing bro lol
    I guess that depends on your perspective. Declaring Iran as non-compliant with the JCPOA would give the US a green light for punitive action and mean inching closer to war. At the very least it would mean more American sanctions and, depending on the gravity of the case brought against Iran, it could mean full snapback of sanctions lifted under the JCPOA. The Eurocucks might not be happy about it but wouldn't have much of a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    I guess that depends on your perspective. Declaring Iran as non-compliant with the JCPOA would give the US a green light for punitive action and mean inching closer to war. At the very least it would mean more American sanctions and, depending on the gravity of the case brought against Iran, it could mean full snapback of sanctions lifted under the JCPOA. The Eurocucks might not be happy about it but wouldn't have much of a choice.
    Well, fuck. Trita parsa was always a dumbass anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    Well, fuck. Trita parsa was always a dumbass anyway
    Trita Parsi showed himself, to use an Americanism, to be a dumbass. He actually believed the JCPOA was a genuine effort to seek peace with Iran, and he acted like the GOP would be interested in peace once they got into office.

    If the sanctions go back on, expect your next holiday to Iran to be cheaper, although inflation will go double digits again.

    Legislation authorizing the use of the US military to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons is already active in Washington DC.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...n%22%5D%7D&r=7

    Worst case scenario would be an alleged breach of the JCPOA leading to passage of that bill into law, followed by an Anglo-American-Israeli-Saudi attack, ostensibly to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    Trita Parsi showed himself, to use an Americanism, to be a dumbass. He actually believed the JCPOA was a genuine effort to seek peace with Iran, and he acted like the GOP would be interested in peace once they got into office.

    If the sanctions go back on, expect your next holiday to Iran to be cheaper, although inflation will go double digits again.

    Legislation authorizing the use of the US military to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons is already active in Washington DC.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...n%22%5D%7D&r=7

    Worst case scenario would be an alleged breach of the JCPOA leading to passage of that bill into law, followed by an Anglo-American-Israeli-Saudi attack, ostensibly to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon.
    I think its already working. Manipulation at its finest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    I think its already working. Manipulation at its finest.

    Those poor sods are being led down the garden path.

    We have the following bad signs of war on the horizon, among others:
    1. General Wesley Clark's revelation in 2007 about what he heard and saw in 2001, i.e. Iran being the final target for a remodelled middle east
    2. The Brookings Institution's 2009 paper Which Path to Persia? which laid out exactly how a nuke deal could be used as a pretext for war
    3. The bill H.J. Res 10 introduced by a Democrat before Trump had even taken office, just sitting there, waiting for the right moment to be passed into law, combined with Israel's strong commitment to preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, and Prince MbS's assertion about taking the war to Iran's soil
    4. Trump stating that the entire Iran policy of his administration is under review
    5. Tillerson's assertion that the US will "work towards support of those elements inside of Iran that would lead to a peaceful transition of that government. Those elements are there, certainly as we know.”
    6. Reports from respected media outlets (for what it's worth) that Trump is now bypassing Dept of State on the JCPOA because they favour the deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    Trump is allegedly trying to bypass the Department of State in seeking a path to "decertifying" Iran's compliance with the JCPOA in October.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/21/...te-department/


    According to right wing sources (for what they are worth), people like Sahar Nowruzzadeh were involved in the JCPOA and Iran policy in the White House and at State, and are trying to force the executive to accept that Iran is in compliance, which was obviously not the purpose of the JCPOA to begin with. Finding Iran non-compliant with the nuclear deal as justification for an escalation of hostilities was always the name of the game.

    Nowruzzadeh was labelled as an Iranian spy by Zionists and right wing mouthpieces generally. Whether or not she is a spy, it seems plausible that an Iranian-American with ties to the NIAC and Trita Parsi might not be interested in pursuing war with Iran.
    why are you pretending to be a European? You're obviously an Iranian living in Australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyasa View Post
    why are you pretending to be a European? You're obviously an Iranian living in Australia
    Yeah, I have an interest in the next major middle eastern war, which makes me Iranian. No-one else is allowed to care about it, right?

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