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    Default Guys, which language is more similar to the Gallo Italic languages?

    Gallo Italic(Piedmontese,Ligurian,Lombard and Emilian Romagnol)

    more similar with:

    Italian,French,Occitan or Catalan?

    thanks!

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    please guys, I really want to know

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    First, take into consideration that Lingurian by some linguists is NOT classified as Gallo italic/Celtic Italic, indeed it's very very different from Emilian-Lombard-Rumagnol-Piedmontese.
    Second, the modern day region of Lombardy was invented in the 70s, the historical region of Lombardy includes also all of Emilia as far as Bologna, and the province of Novara in the modernday region of Piedmont. Indeed the "emilian language" is spoken major cities/provinces within the modernday region of lombardy like Pavia and Mantua. So the modernday region of Emilia Romagna is a social construct invented in the 70s, just as Trentino, where the western part is Lombard, the eastern Venetian, and the northern German.

    With regards to Lombard-Emilian (and also Piedmontese) there's absolutely any doubt that the closest language in terms of phonetics, vocabularies,...is French. That is due to sounds/letters like œ, ô, ü, û, ë, ä, æ, such as fœra/fôra (out), dü/dû (two), brœd/brôt (broth), incœ (today), Dûtœr/Dutôr (Doctor), sœl/sôl (sun), përma (parma), säcchia (Secchia river), pæss (fish). And also the word endings usually end with consonants, and have similar endings with french such as Spegazióun (Explanation), Allûvióun/Inûndazióun (flood), Dûróun (cherries), Cantóun (angle),...

    And then there's a letter that is only shared between the "emilian language" , istro rumanian and scandinavian languages: the letter å, such as såppa (soup), dåppi (double), ståpid (stupid), Bulåggna (bologna),...
    And with the case of the "emilian language" all of the verbs end in -er, like Parlêr (to speak), Fartûtler (to rumble), Stûrler (to bump), Fêr (to do),...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeT View Post
    First, take into consideration that Lingurian by some linguists is NOT classified as Gallo italic/Celtic Italic, indeed it's very very different from Emilian-Lombard-Rumagnol-Piedmontese.
    Second, the modern day region of Lombardy was invented in the 70s, the historical region of Lombardy includes also all of Emilia as far as Bologna, and the province of Novara in the modernday region of Piedmont. Indeed the "emilian language" is spoken major cities/provinces within the modernday region of lombardy like Pavia and Mantua. So the modernday region of Emilia Romagna is a social construct invented in the 70s, just as Trentino, where the western part is Lombard, the eastern Venetian, and the northern German.

    With regards to Lombard-Emilian (and also Piedmontese) there's absolutely any doubt that the closest language in terms of phonetics, vocabularies,...is French. That is due to sounds/letters like œ, ô, ü, û, ë, ä, æ, such as fœra/fôra (out), dü/dû (two), brœd/brôt (broth), incœ (today), Dûtœr/Dutôr (Doctor), sœl/sôl (sun), përma (parma), säcchia (Secchia river), pæss (fish). And also the word endings usually end with consonants, and have similar endings with french such as Spegazióun (Explanation), Allûvióun/Inûndazióun (flood), Dûróun (cherries), Cantóun (angle),...

    And then there's a letter that is only shared between the "emilian language" , istro rumanian and scandinavian languages: the letter å, such as såppa (soup), dåppi (double), ståpid (stupid), Bulåggna (bologna),...
    And with the case of the "emilian language" all of the verbs end in -er, like Parlêr (to speak), Fartûtler (to rumble), Stûrler (to bump), Fêr (to do),...
    thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeT View Post
    First, take into consideration that Lingurian by some linguists is NOT classified as Gallo italic/Celtic Italic, indeed it's very very different from Emilian-Lombard-Rumagnol-Piedmontese.
    Second, the modern day region of Lombardy was invented in the 70s, the historical region of Lombardy includes also all of Emilia as far as Bologna, and the province of Novara in the modernday region of Piedmont. Indeed the "emilian language" is spoken major cities/provinces within the modernday region of lombardy like Pavia and Mantua. So the modernday region of Emilia Romagna is a social construct invented in the 70s, just as Trentino, where the western part is Lombard, the eastern Venetian, and the northern German.

    With regards to Lombard-Emilian (and also Piedmontese) there's absolutely any doubt that the closest language in terms of phonetics, vocabularies,...is French. That is due to sounds/letters like œ, ô, ü, û, ë, ä, æ, such as fœra/fôra (out), dü/dû (two), brœd/brôt (broth), incœ (today), Dûtœr/Dutôr (Doctor), sœl/sôl (sun), përma (parma), säcchia (Secchia river), pæss (fish). And also the word endings usually end with consonants, and have similar endings with french such as Spegazióun (Explanation), Allûvióun/Inûndazióun (flood), Dûróun (cherries), Cantóun (angle),...

    And then there's a letter that is only shared between the "emilian language" , istro rumanian and scandinavian languages: the letter å, such as såppa (soup), dåppi (double), ståpid (stupid), Bulåggna (bologna),...
    And with the case of the "emilian language" all of the verbs end in -er, like Parlêr (to speak), Fartûtler (to rumble), Stûrler (to bump), Fêr (to do),...
    WHAT? WHAT? YOU ARE JOKING MY FRIEND!!!!! The ADMINISTRATIVE regions were "invented" in 1948, the same as the spanish regions like you see today were "invented" in the later 80es. BUT SINCE LONG LONG TIME THEIR EXISTANCE WAS ALREADY THERE AND CULTURALLY, LINGUISTICALLY, THEIR NAMES, THEIR TRADITIONS ARE VERY OLD!! the name LOMBARDIA, for example was "invented" by the Longobards, just to give you an example. Before playing a trump with your mouth you should think twice!!!!!
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    And you should specify, my dear Luke, that in certain parts of Switzerland YOU SPEAK THE SAME GALO-ITALIC LANGUAGES, identical to ours!!

    p.s. the ligurian languages are not classified etc etc. by SOME linguists. French for example, they DO classify the ligurian as celt and define ancient ligurians "celt" what they probably aren't being Ambrones (i.e. german) celticized.

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    p.s. the "scandinavian" sounds are due to the proximity of galo-italic languages to the gaulish of Normandy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longobarda View Post
    And you should specify, my dear Luke, that in certain parts of Switzerland YOU SPEAK THE SAME GALO-ITALIC LANGUAGES, identical to ours!!

    p.s. the ligurian languages are not classified etc etc. by SOME linguists. French for example, they DO classify the ligurian as celt and define ancient ligurians "celt" what they probably aren't being Ambrones (i.e. german) celticized.
    ancient Ligures/Ligurians was Iberos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeWorshiper View Post
    ancient Ligures/Ligurians was Iberos!
    Exacly THE CONTRARY. Ligurians were occupying a vast territory including a part of northern Italy, Southern France and Iberia up to Zaragoza. The were bordering the iberos territories and maybe in some cases they were intermingled. It is supposed that the ligurians arrived up to Cadiz, seen that in the goulf of Cadiz it exists a lake called LACUS LIGUSTCUS (Lake of the Ligurians). They possibly were Ambrones (german tribe) celticized.

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    Il gallo-italico è un gruppo linguistico, classificato a volte tra le lingue italo-romanze, a volte tra le lingue galloromanze, a volte è segnalato come transizione tra i due gruppi. Queste lingue sono il risultato della fusione del latino volgare con un SOSTRATO CELTICO e LIGURE e con un superstrato GERMANICO. Notevoli sono pure le influenze francese e toscana, presenti fin dal Medioevo con varia intensità.

    Le lingue gallo-italiche sono principalmente diffuse nell'Italia Settentrionale in Emilia-Romagna, Liguria, Lombardia e Piemonte, ma raggiungono anche il nord di Marche e Toscana. Isole linguistiche alloglotte sono presenti in Italia Insulare e Italia Meridionale con i dialetti gallo-italici di Sicilia, della Basilicata e una varietà ligure parlata in Sardegna. Al di fuori dei confini italiani si estendono in Svizzera (Canton Ticino e Canton Grigioni), a San Marino e a Monaco.

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