Is the US heading for civil war?

**JohnSmith** · 07-18-2017, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by Oneeye

??? People are absolutely in favor of changing Obamacare. A failure in reforming healthcare will cost Republicans much more.

Yes, they want a change because Obamacare is terrible. But the Republican plan is worse and less popular out of pocket cost are HIGHER under the GOPs plan this is ludicrous.. The hardcore Conservatives that want no government at all involved in healthcare are a MINORITY in the USA. They need to work with Democrats to get something meaningful done.

I among most Americans do not like the idea of government being to much involved in Healthcare; however, the government needs to find a way of regulating the healthcare cost so it does not get out of control.
I actually think the Senate needs to get rid of the Filibuster.

**~~Kamal900~~** · 07-18-2017, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by Oneeye

The problem is the people that believe in it.

"If you want to know who rules over you, find out who you cannot criticize" - Voltaire.

**~~LieDetector~~** · 07-18-2017, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by Oneeye

The problem is the people that believe in it.

IKR. And the funny thing about this all is that this shit with Russia has been going on for decades now. The general public is just too stupid to see this is all a distraction from the real shit that is going on. They told us they were going to spread communism in America, that they pointed nukes at us in Cuba and now they hacked our election etc. The lies never seem to end. Or is it just me that sees this pattern?

**Drawing-slim** · 07-18-2017, 05:56 AM

Democrats might never win again.

**JohnSmith** · 07-18-2017, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by Drawing-slim

Democrats might never win again.

They will win again. Republicans are the ones in a lot of trouble. Trump needs to govern.. They need term limits in congress.

**JohnSmith** · 07-18-2017, 06:04 AM

I believe in Fiscal Conservatism for spending on Budgets and Programs however I also believe in helping through social programs and all should have access to quality healthcare at an affordable price

**Oneeye** · 07-18-2017, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by JohnSmith

Yes, they want a change because Obamacare is terrible. But the Republican plan is worse and less popular out of pocket cost are HIGHER under the GOPs plan this is ludicrous.. The hardcore Conservatives that want no government at all involved in healthcare are a MINORITY in the USA. They need to work with Democrats to get something meaningful done.

I among most Americans do not like the idea of government being to much involved in Healthcare; however, the government needs to find a way of regulating the healthcare cost so it does not get out of control.
I actually think the Senate needs to get rid of the Filibuster.

It gets rid of the individual mandate and some other positives, and hardly takes government put of healthcare.. I mean they want to require insurance companies to have higher premiums for a year for people that skipped out on insurance for a couple months, for example. Tax credits are still there albeit based on age, and they allow more descrepancy in how much difference there can be in a plan's cost for younger people to elderly, but it is still there.

What eould you like to see from the dems?

**Colonel Frank Grimes** · 07-18-2017, 06:18 AM

There won't be a civil war. If there was it would be hysterically funny. The Left in the US are not exactly known for their familiarity with guns and those antifada guys don't do very well unless they outnumber someone 6 to 1.

**Oneeye** · 07-18-2017, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by LieDetector

IKR. And the funny thing about this all is that this shit with Russia has been going on for decades now. The general public is just too stupid to see this is all a distraction from the real shit that is going on. They told us they were going to spread communism in America, that they pointed nukes at us in Cuba and now they hacked our election etc. The lies never seem to end. Or is it just me that sees this pattern?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say.. that the Cuban missile crisis was a sham? It was part of the esculation between Khruschev and Kennedy.

It is the left, many fans of communism, whether downplayed or out in the open, that is accusing Russia of tampering with the election.. with no proof. They're just trying to delegitimize Trump's election. Honestly, it is like Obama's birth certificate ordeal.

And Trump colluding with Russia is such an obvious hoax.. first thing he did before going to the G20 was go to Poland sell missiles to them and praise them for how they have endured occupation in the last century. It's not subtle at all.

**JohnSmith** · 07-18-2017, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by Oneeye

It gets rid of the individual mandate and some other positives, and hardly takes government put of healthcare.. I mean they want to require insurance companies to have higher premiums for a year for people that skipped out on insurance for a couple months, for example. Tax credits are still there albeit based on age, and they allow more descrepancy in how much difference there can be in a plan's cost for younger people to elderly, but it is still there.

What eould you like to see from the dems?

I would like to see a bipartisan bill that controls the cost of the healthcare and where it prevents the growth from bankrupting the USA government.

The high Cost of care is the problem and we need to regulate cost in a way that is best for the Patient and best for creating a sustainable health system.