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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    What do south indians get?
    I don't know; however, I did get 30% S-Indian on Harappa World.
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    I wonder what would happen if they broke down the 'SE-Asian' category into multiple categories/components...that would be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    No it doesn't seem the best at all. Otherwise why would they score other components in more detailed calculators? There are some calculators that say Iranians are 90% French, but that doesn't mean they are French. On that calculator, there were only two components. No calculator is going to be better at detecting asi other than asi k9, that's what it's made for detecting
    because ANE K6 ancient south eurasian component is based on papuans , australian aborigines , and andamanese islanders . it is the maximized and detailed australoid you can get .

    ANE K6 has 6 admixture components which is not little

    the ASI component on Eurasia K9 ASI is based on onge , andamanese and a few other tribal south indian populations only while K6 is based on papuans/australian aborigines on top of it along with andamanese

    it is definitely without a question a better indicator of australoid admix

    here a result from an australian aborigine and a papuan

    Admix Results (sorted):

    1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 90.27
    2 East_Asian 5.69
    3 Sub_Saharan 3.24
    4 Natufian 0.42
    5 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 0.39

    Single Population Sharing:

    1 Onge 8.46
    2 Australian 11.34
    3 Andamanese 11.34
    4 Papuan 11.34
    5 Paniyas 50
    6 Palliyar 55.51
    7 Kharia 59.47
    8 Bengali 71.01
    9 Punjabi_PJL 73.41
    10 GujaratiD 75.01
    11 GujaratiC 76.65
    12 GoyetQ116 81.42
    13 GujaratiB 82.13
    14 GujaratiA 83.5
    15 Punjabi 85.48
    16 Burusho 86.43
    17 Sindhi 86.64
    18 Kusunda 89.35
    19 Pathan 89.43
    20 Kalash 90.08

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90.9% Andamanese + 9.1% Altaian @ 3.77
    2 90.9% Australian + 9.1% Altaian @ 3.77
    3 90.9% Papuan + 9.1% Altaian @ 3.77
    4 90.7% Andamanese + 9.3% Kyrgyz @ 3.78
    5 90.7% Australian + 9.3% Kyrgyz @ 3.78
    6 90.7% Papuan + 9.3% Kyrgyz @ 3.78
    7 91.3% Andamanese + 8.7% Kalmyk @ 3.84
    8 91.3% Australian + 8.7% Kalmyk @ 3.84
    9 91.3% Papuan + 8.7% Kalmyk @ 3.84
    10 89.4% Andamanese + 10.6% Kusunda @ 3.97
    11 89.4% Australian + 10.6% Kusunda @ 3.97
    12 89.4% Papuan + 10.6% Kusunda @ 3.97
    13 90.3% Andamanese + 9.7% Sherpa @ 4.02
    14 90.3% Australian + 9.7% Sherpa @ 4.02
    15 90.3% Papuan + 9.7% Sherpa @ 4.02
    16 91.6% Andamanese + 8.4% Eskimo @ 4.12
    17 91.6% Australian + 8.4% Eskimo @ 4.12
    18 91.6% Papuan + 8.4% Eskimo @ 4.12
    19 90.5% Andamanese + 9.5% Cambodian @ 4.12
    20 90.5% Australian + 9.5% Cambodian @ 4.12

    ----

    Admix Results (sorted):

    1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 100

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance

    1 Andamanese 0
    2 Australian 0
    3 Papuan 0

    4 Onge 17.66
    5 Paniyas 59.23
    6 Palliyar 64.67
    7 Kharia 69.76
    8 Bengali 79.95
    9 Punjabi_PJL 81.6
    10 GujaratiD 83.14
    11 GujaratiC 84.63
    12 GujaratiB 90.1
    13 GoyetQ116 90.39
    14 GujaratiA 91.43
    15 Punjabi 93.43
    16 Sindhi 94.44
    17 Burusho 95.03
    18 Pathan 97.37
    19 Kalash 97.96
    20 Pashtun_Afghan 99.68

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 100% Onge + 0% Adygei @ 17.66
    2 100% Onge + 0% AG2 @ 17.66
    3 100% Onge + 0% AG3 @ 17.66
    4 100% Onge + 0% Albanian @ 17.66
    5 100% Onge + 0% Algerian @ 17.66
    6 100% Onge + 0% Altaian @ 17.66
    7 100% Onge + 0% Ami @ 17.66
    8 100% Onge + 0% Anatolia_N @ 17.66
    9 100% Onge + 0% Armenia_ChL @ 17.66
    10 100% Onge + 0% Assyrian @ 17.66
    11 100% Onge + 0% Azeri @ 17.66
    12 100% Onge + 0% Balkar @ 17.66
    13 100% Onge + 0% Baloch_Iranian @ 17.66
    14 100% Onge + 0% Balochi @ 17.66
    15 100% Onge + 0% Basque @ 17.66
    16 100% Onge + 0% BedouinA @ 17.66
    17 100% Onge + 0% Bengali @ 17.66
    18 100% Onge + 0% Brahui @ 17.66
    19 100% Onge + 0% Bulgarian @ 17.66
    20 100% Onge + 0% Burusho @ 17.66

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    Quote Originally Posted by All-In View Post
    because ANE K6 ancient south eurasian component is based on papuans , australian aborigines , and andamanese islanders . it is the maximized and detailed australoid you can get .

    ANE K6 has 6 admixture components which is not little

    the ASI component on Eurasia K9 ASI is based on onge , andamanese and a few other tribal south indian populations only while K6 is based on papuans/australian aborigines on top of it along with andamanese

    it is definitely without a question a better indicator of australoid admix

    here a result from an australian aborigine and a papuan

    Admix Results (sorted):

    1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 90.27
    2 East_Asian 5.69
    3 Sub_Saharan 3.24
    4 Natufian 0.42
    5 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 0.39

    Single Population Sharing:

    1 Onge 8.46
    2 Australian 11.34
    3 Andamanese 11.34
    4 Papuan 11.34
    5 Paniyas 50
    6 Palliyar 55.51
    7 Kharia 59.47
    8 Bengali 71.01
    9 Punjabi_PJL 73.41
    10 GujaratiD 75.01
    11 GujaratiC 76.65
    12 GoyetQ116 81.42
    13 GujaratiB 82.13
    14 GujaratiA 83.5
    15 Punjabi 85.48
    16 Burusho 86.43
    17 Sindhi 86.64
    18 Kusunda 89.35
    19 Pathan 89.43
    20 Kalash 90.08

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90.9% Andamanese + 9.1% Altaian @ 3.77
    2 90.9% Australian + 9.1% Altaian @ 3.77
    3 90.9% Papuan + 9.1% Altaian @ 3.77
    4 90.7% Andamanese + 9.3% Kyrgyz @ 3.78
    5 90.7% Australian + 9.3% Kyrgyz @ 3.78
    6 90.7% Papuan + 9.3% Kyrgyz @ 3.78
    7 91.3% Andamanese + 8.7% Kalmyk @ 3.84
    8 91.3% Australian + 8.7% Kalmyk @ 3.84
    9 91.3% Papuan + 8.7% Kalmyk @ 3.84
    10 89.4% Andamanese + 10.6% Kusunda @ 3.97
    11 89.4% Australian + 10.6% Kusunda @ 3.97
    12 89.4% Papuan + 10.6% Kusunda @ 3.97
    13 90.3% Andamanese + 9.7% Sherpa @ 4.02
    14 90.3% Australian + 9.7% Sherpa @ 4.02
    15 90.3% Papuan + 9.7% Sherpa @ 4.02
    16 91.6% Andamanese + 8.4% Eskimo @ 4.12
    17 91.6% Australian + 8.4% Eskimo @ 4.12
    18 91.6% Papuan + 8.4% Eskimo @ 4.12
    19 90.5% Andamanese + 9.5% Cambodian @ 4.12
    20 90.5% Australian + 9.5% Cambodian @ 4.12

    ----

    Admix Results (sorted):

    1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 100

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance

    1 Andamanese 0
    2 Australian 0
    3 Papuan 0

    4 Onge 17.66
    5 Paniyas 59.23
    6 Palliyar 64.67
    7 Kharia 69.76
    8 Bengali 79.95
    9 Punjabi_PJL 81.6
    10 GujaratiD 83.14
    11 GujaratiC 84.63
    12 GujaratiB 90.1
    13 GoyetQ116 90.39
    14 GujaratiA 91.43
    15 Punjabi 93.43
    16 Sindhi 94.44
    17 Burusho 95.03
    18 Pathan 97.37
    19 Kalash 97.96
    20 Pashtun_Afghan 99.68

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 100% Onge + 0% Adygei @ 17.66
    2 100% Onge + 0% AG2 @ 17.66
    3 100% Onge + 0% AG3 @ 17.66
    4 100% Onge + 0% Albanian @ 17.66
    5 100% Onge + 0% Algerian @ 17.66
    6 100% Onge + 0% Altaian @ 17.66
    7 100% Onge + 0% Ami @ 17.66
    8 100% Onge + 0% Anatolia_N @ 17.66
    9 100% Onge + 0% Armenia_ChL @ 17.66
    10 100% Onge + 0% Assyrian @ 17.66
    11 100% Onge + 0% Azeri @ 17.66
    12 100% Onge + 0% Balkar @ 17.66
    13 100% Onge + 0% Baloch_Iranian @ 17.66
    14 100% Onge + 0% Balochi @ 17.66
    15 100% Onge + 0% Basque @ 17.66
    16 100% Onge + 0% BedouinA @ 17.66
    17 100% Onge + 0% Bengali @ 17.66
    18 100% Onge + 0% Brahui @ 17.66
    19 100% Onge + 0% Bulgarian @ 17.66
    20 100% Onge + 0% Burusho @ 17.66
    Obviously they are going to score 100% Ancestral_South_Indian when you base the component off of them. If you called the component "French" and based it off of them, they would score 100% "French." It doesn't mean that all the affinity comes from australoid admixture.

    ANE k9 bases asi off of onge, because they may havr been the closest to real ASI's. In that calculator, melanesians only score a quarter ASI. And they score a fair bit of CHG, and that doesn't just happen by accident. There seems to be both shared caucasoid and Australoid ancestry between south indians and melanesians.

    It also makes sense that the dominating component in Australian aborigines is Southeast Asian, because their ancestry from there is well documented.

    As early as 50,000 years ago, the first modern humans made the narrow sea crossing from Southeast Asia to the Melanesia region after following the southern coastal route out of Africa. About 25,000 years ago, at the height of the last glacial period, Australia, Tasmania and Papua New Guinea were part of the same landmass, called Sahul. They were separated about 10,000 years ago, when melting glaciers caused the sea level to rise.
    https://www.ancestry.com/dna/ethnicity/melanesia
    Learn some about Afghans here
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...of-Afghanistan

    Indian Genomics can be modeled by four-way populations, not two way populations. Read more in this thread:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...tion-structure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    Obviously they are going to score 100% Ancestral_South_Indian when you base the component off of them. If you called the component "French" and based it off of them, they would score 100% "French." It doesn't mean that all the affinity comes from australoid admixture.

    ANE k9 bases asi off of onge, because they may havr been the closest to real ASI's. In that calculator, melanesians only score a quarter ASI. And they score a fair bit of CHG, and that doesn't just happen by accident. There seems to be both shared caucasoid and Australoid ancestry between south indians and melanesians.

    It also makes sense that the dominating component in Australian aborigines is Southeast Asian, because their ancestry from there is well documented.



    https://www.ancestry.com/dna/ethnicity/melanesia
    yes to find out australoid admix you base the australoid component on australoid peoples ..!!! ....or which other people other than papuans , australian aboriginies , and andamanese should be taken for it ? I dont know what there is not to understand right now . are you doing this on purpose ? I really wonder . I will go step by step for you to make you understand

    1. Australian Aborigines , Papuans , Andamanese = Australoid people

    2. the calculator ANE K6 takes exactly those australoid people to make the ancestral south eurasian component

    RESULT =

    3. the ANE K6 calculator is the best so far to look for australoid score . so other people can find out their own australoid


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    yes ASI K9 is based on south indian tribals only without papuan/australian aborigine . and yes they have chg admix . but we are talking about australoid component which the other calculator is better suited for . if still not understood then read the 3 points above again

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    Not surprised that they have relations to Caucasoids, as, like Caucasians, Aboriginals have a pronounced brow ridge (although theirs is much more stronger). Negroids and Mongoloids lack a prominent brow ridge, especially the latter.

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