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    EDIT : I added non-europeans and ancient samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcelow View Post
    North_Sea 13.16
    Atlantic 10.39
    Baltic 11.03
    Eastern_Euro 8.04
    West_Med 14.68
    West_Asian 12.93
    East_Med 26.23
    Red_Sea 2.75
    South_Asian 0.30
    Southeast_Asian 0.05
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.42

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    53.0% Cyprian + 47.0% Slovenian @ 4.474
    56.0% Cyprian + 44.0% Slovenian @ 4.523
    52.0% Cyprian + 48.0% Slovenian @ 4.569
    71.0% Macedonian + 29.0% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.649
    57.0% Cyprian + 43.0% Slovenian @ 4.65
    72.0% Macedonian + 28.0% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.663
    83.0% Albanian + 17.0% Iraqi_Jews @ 4.673
    82.0% Albanian + 18.0% Iraqi_Jews @ 4.676

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    Can you do my father's?



    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 36.42
    2 Atlantic 29.57
    3 Baltic 10.8
    4 West_Med 9.27
    5 Eastern_Euro 6.54
    6 West_Asian 4.58
    7 Red_Sea 1.37
    8 East_Med 0.83
    9 Siberian 0.47
    10 Oceanian 0.17
    94.0% Irish + 6.0% Gokhem7 @ 2.889
    95.0% Irish + 5.0% Gokhem7 @ 2.914
    93.0% Irish + 7.0% Gokhem7 @ 2.941
    96.0% Irish + 4.0% Gokhem7 @ 3.016
    92.0% Irish + 8.0% Gokhem7 @ 3.063
    73.0% Southwest_English + 27.0% Hinxton 4 (Iron Age) @ 3.155
    74.0% Southwest_English + 26.0% Hinxton 4 (Iron Age) @ 3.155
    72.0% Southwest_English + 28.0% Hinxton 4 (Iron Age) @ 3.157
    75.0% Southwest_English + 25.0% Hinxton 4 (Iron Age) @ 3.158
    71.0% Southwest_English + 29.0% Hinxton 4 (Iron Age) @ 3.162

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    mine will be very funny

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 22.68
    2 West_Med 13.18
    3 North_Sea 13.06
    4 Amerindian 12.96
    5 Sub-Saharan 10.57
    6 East_Med 7.95
    7 Baltic 6.33
    8 West_Asian 4.89
    9 Red_Sea 4.68
    10 Eastern_Euro 3.27
    11 Northeast_African 0.34
    12 Oceanian 0.08

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    Mine:

    North_Sea 4.46
    Atlantic 2.04
    Baltic -
    Eastern_Euro 6.82
    West_Med 3.33
    West_Asian 36.13
    East_Med 31.38
    Red_Sea 4.89
    South_Asian 9.88
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.18
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African 0.55
    Sub-Saharan 0.34

    Bonus:

    Population
    North_Sea 25.42
    Atlantic 14.04
    Baltic 10.82
    Eastern_Euro 20.44
    West_Med -
    West_Asian 16.35
    East_Med -
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian 4.36
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian 4.63
    Amerindian 3.94
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Some Sicilians, 5 east, 5 west.

    Palermo1:
    Population
    North_Sea 11.12
    Atlantic 13.41
    Baltic 2.83
    Eastern_Euro 0.95
    West_Med 17.11
    West_Asian 14.11
    East_Med 30.08
    Red_Sea 7.27
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian 0.30
    Siberian 0.18
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.59
    Northeast_African 1.33
    Sub-Saharan 0.73


    Palermo2:
    Population
    North_Sea 13.32
    Atlantic 12.19
    Baltic 5.46
    Eastern_Euro -
    West_Med 14.38
    West_Asian 19.03
    East_Med 27.52
    Red_Sea 4.92
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.64
    Northeast_African 1.36
    Sub-Saharan 1.18


    Palermo3:
    Population
    North_Sea 14.83
    Atlantic 7.21
    Baltic 2.51
    Eastern_Euro 2.56
    West_Med 18.37
    West_Asian 11.79
    East_Med 32.68
    Red_Sea 7.37
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.90
    Oceanian 0.25
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 1.54


    Palermo4:
    Population
    North_Sea 13.04
    Atlantic 10.79
    Baltic 2.97
    Eastern_Euro -
    West_Med 19.35
    West_Asian 14.74
    East_Med 29.00
    Red_Sea 7.52
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.12
    Northeast_African 1.89
    Sub-Saharan 0.59


    Palermo5:
    Population
    North_Sea 6.24
    Atlantic 13.76
    Baltic 4.92
    Eastern_Euro 3.10
    West_Med 21.13
    West_Asian 17.23
    East_Med 26.85
    Red_Sea 4.61
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.45
    Oceanian 0.71
    Northeast_African 0.55
    Sub-Saharan 0.44


    Ragusa:
    Population
    North_Sea 10.98
    Atlantic 12.07
    Baltic 4.90
    Eastern_Euro 2.67
    West_Med 20.66
    West_Asian 12.84
    East_Med 27.43
    Red_Sea 4.54
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian 0.70
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African 1.66
    Sub-Saharan 1.55

    Ragusa:
    Population
    North_Sea 12.68
    Atlantic 13.42
    Baltic 6.27
    Eastern_Euro 2.32
    West_Med 16.59
    West_Asian 13.69
    East_Med 26.75
    Red_Sea 5.42
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian 0.50
    Amerindian 0.18
    Oceanian 0.71
    Northeast_African 0.42
    Sub-Saharan 1.04


    Syracuse:
    Population
    North_Sea 9.36
    Atlantic 10.40
    Baltic 7.83
    Eastern_Euro 3.17
    West_Med 19.22
    West_Asian 16.32
    East_Med 28.21
    Red_Sea 4.03
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian 0.15
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African 1.25
    Sub-Saharan 0.07


    Messina:
    Population
    North_Sea 2.29
    Atlantic 19.00
    Baltic 5.11
    Eastern_Euro 0.30
    West_Med 15.76
    West_Asian 17.14
    East_Med 30.84
    Red_Sea 6.64
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian 0.32
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African 2.14
    Sub-Saharan 0.46


    Catania:
    Population
    North_Sea 10.80
    Atlantic 11.26
    Baltic 3.87
    Eastern_Euro -
    West_Med 21.00
    West_Asian 15.04
    East_Med 29.45
    Red_Sea 6.02
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian 0.45
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.10
    Northeast_African 1.98
    Sub-Saharan -
    Palermo1
    24.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 + 76.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.067
    23.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 + 77.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.086
    25.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 + 75.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.091
    85.0% Italian_Jewish + 15.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 @ 3.122
    86.0% Italian_Jewish + 14.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 @ 3.125
    22.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 + 78.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.149
    84.0% Italian_Jewish + 16.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 @ 3.156
    26.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 + 74.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.159
    87.0% Italian_Jewish + 13.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 @ 3.166
    83.0% Italian_Jewish + 17.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 @ 3.224


    Palermo2
    81.0% South_Italian + 19.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 @ 3.722
    82.0% South_Italian + 18.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 @ 3.742
    80.0% South_Italian + 20.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 @ 3.747
    83.0% South_Italian + 17.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 @ 3.805
    79.0% South_Italian + 21.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 @ 3.816
    84.0% South_Italian + 16.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 @ 3.911
    78.0% South_Italian + 22.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 @ 3.927
    85.0% South_Italian + 15.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 @ 4.056
    77.0% South_Italian + 23.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 @ 4.076
    86.0% South_Italian + 14.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 @ 4.234


    Palermo3
    26.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 + 74.0% Italian_Jewish @ 6.378
    25.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 + 75.0% Italian_Jewish @ 6.383
    27.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 + 73.0% Italian_Jewish @ 6.388
    24.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 + 76.0% Italian_Jewish @ 6.403
    28.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 + 72.0% Italian_Jewish @ 6.412
    23.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 + 77.0% Italian_Jewish @ 6.437
    29.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 + 71.0% Italian_Jewish @ 6.452
    22.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 + 78.0% Italian_Jewish @ 6.486
    30.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 + 70.0% Italian_Jewish @ 6.505
    21.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 + 79.0% Italian_Jewish @ 6.548


    Palermo4
    21.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 + 79.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.922
    22.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 + 78.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.93
    20.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 + 80.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.962
    14.0% Anatolia EBA Kum4 + 86.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.973
    15.0% Anatolia EBA Kum4 + 85.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.976
    23.0% Armenia LBA RISE408 + 77.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.987
    29.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 + 71.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.011
    28.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 + 72.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.011
    30.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 + 70.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.037
    27.0% Armenia MBA RISE416 + 73.0% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.038


    Palermo5
    50.0% NE1 (neolithic Hungary) + 50.0% Armenia_Chalcolithic I1631 @ 3.691
    49.0% NE1 (neolithic Hungary) + 51.0% Armenia_Chalcolithic I1631 @ 3.719
    51.0% NE1 (neolithic Hungary) + 49.0% Armenia_Chalcolithic I1631 @ 3.747
    48.0% NE1 (neolithic Hungary) + 52.0% Armenia_Chalcolithic I1631 @ 3.828
    52.0% NE1 (neolithic Hungary) + 48.0% Armenia_Chalcolithic I1631 @ 3.883
    47.0% NE1 (neolithic Hungary) + 53.0% Armenia_Chalcolithic I1631 @ 4.01
    46.0% NE1 (neolithic Hungary) + 54.0% Armenia Chalcolithic avg @ 4.019
    47.0% NE1 (neolithic Hungary) + 53.0% Armenia Chalcolithic avg @ 4.035
    45.0% NE1 (neolithic Hungary) + 55.0% Armenia Chalcolithic avg @ 4.072
    53.0% Armenia_Chalcolithic I1631 + 47.0% Anatolian EF I0746 @ 4.088


    Ragusa1
    90.0% East_Sicilian + 10.0% LBK-I0054 @ 4.16
    89.0% East_Sicilian + 11.0% LBK-I0054 @ 4.164
    91.0% East_Sicilian + 9.0% LBK-I0054 @ 4.189
    88.0% East_Sicilian + 12.0% LBK-I0054 @ 4.199
    90.0% East_Sicilian + 10.0% LBK-I0100 @ 4.21
    89.0% East_Sicilian + 11.0% LBK-I0100 @ 4.225
    91.0% East_Sicilian + 9.0% LBK-I0100 @ 4.229
    92.0% East_Sicilian + 8.0% LBK-I0054 @ 4.25
    87.0% East_Sicilian + 13.0% LBK-I0054 @ 4.265
    88.0% East_Sicilian + 12.0% LBK-I0100 @ 4.273


    Ragusa2
    89.0% South_Italian + 11.0% Srubnaya-I0430 @ 2.634
    52.0% Cyprian + 48.0% IT_Sappada @ 2.654
    53.0% Cyprian + 47.0% IT_Sappada @ 2.66
    90.0% South_Italian + 10.0% Srubnaya-I0430 @ 2.684
    88.0% South_Italian + 12.0% Srubnaya-I0430 @ 2.707
    51.0% Cyprian + 49.0% IT_Sappada @ 2.723
    54.0% Cyprian + 46.0% IT_Sappada @ 2.74
    89.0% South_Italian + 11.0% Anglo-Saxon England @ 2.818
    90.0% South_Italian + 10.0% Anglo-Saxon England @ 2.822
    91.0% South_Italian + 9.0% Srubnaya-I0430 @ 2.85



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    Quote Originally Posted by PentaDrägon View Post
    mine will be very funny

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 22.68
    2 West_Med 13.18
    3 North_Sea 13.06
    4 Amerindian 12.96
    5 Sub-Saharan 10.57
    6 East_Med 7.95
    7 Baltic 6.33
    8 West_Asian 4.89
    9 Red_Sea 4.68
    10 Eastern_Euro 3.27
    11 Northeast_African 0.34
    12 Oceanian 0.08

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    15.0% Kennewick + 85.0% White_PuertoRican @ 10.147
    18.0% Kennewick + 82.0% White_PuertoRican @ 10.155
    14.0% Kennewick + 86.0% White_PuertoRican @ 10.257
    84.0% White_PuertoRican + 16.0% Kennewick @ 10.269
    19.0% Kennewick + 81.0% White_PuertoRican @ 10.271
    83.0% White_PuertoRican + 17.0% Kennewick @ 10.288
    85.0% White_PuertoRican + 15.0% Kennewick @ 10.306
    82.0% White_PuertoRican + 18.0% Kennewick @ 10.36

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Mine:

    North_Sea 4.46
    Atlantic 2.04
    Baltic -
    Eastern_Euro 6.82
    West_Med 3.33
    West_Asian 36.13
    East_Med 31.38
    Red_Sea 4.89
    South_Asian 9.88
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.18
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African 0.55
    Sub-Saharan 0.34

    Bonus:

    Population
    North_Sea 25.42
    Atlantic 14.04
    Baltic 10.82
    Eastern_Euro 20.44
    West_Med -
    West_Asian 16.35
    East_Med -
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian 4.36
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian 4.63
    Amerindian 3.94
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -
    PAhli
    91.0% Kurdish + 9.0% Iran Mesolithic I1293 @ 4.299
    90.0% Kurdish + 10.0% Iran Mesolithic I1293 @ 4.3
    92.0% Kurdish + 8.0% Iran Mesolithic I1293 @ 4.314
    89.0% Kurdish + 11.0% Iran Mesolithic I1293 @ 4.316
    96.0% Kurdish + 4.0% Anatolia EBA Kum4 @ 4.326
    93.0% Kurdish + 7.0% Iran Mesolithic I1293 @ 4.345
    88.0% Kurdish + 12.0% Iran Mesolithic I1293 @ 4.348
    97.0% Kurdish + 3.0% Anatolia EBA Kum4 @ 4.352
    94.0% Kurdish + 6.0% Iran Mesolithic I1293 @ 4.392
    95.0% Kurdish + 5.0% Anatolia EBA Kum4 @ 4.394

    Bonus
    99.0% Scythian_IA + 1.0% Corded_Ware_LN @ 1.017
    99.0% Scythian_IA + 1.0% Corded_Ware_LN @ 1.02
    99.0% Scythian_IA + 1.0% Corded_Ware_LN @ 1.025
    99.0% Scythian_IA + 1.0% Andronovo-RISE505 3k @ 1.035
    99.0% Scythian_IA + 1.0% Corded_Ware_LN @ 1.035
    99.0% Scythian_IA + 1.0% Corded Ware Germany I0104 @ 1.046
    99.0% Scythian_IA + 1.0% IR1 Iron Age hungarian @ 1.047
    99.0% Scythian_IA + 1.0% Srubnaya-I0430 @ 1.051
    99.0% Scythian_IA + 1.0% Ajvide70, Sweden 4-5 k @ 1.055
    99.0% Scythian_IA + 1.0% Ajvide58, Sweden 4-5k @ 1.055

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Some Sicilians, 5 east, 5 west.



    Syracuse:
    Population
    North_Sea 9.36
    Atlantic 10.40
    Baltic 7.83
    Eastern_Euro 3.17
    West_Med 19.22
    West_Asian 16.32
    East_Med 28.21
    Red_Sea 4.03
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian 0.15
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African 1.25
    Sub-Saharan 0.07


    Messina:
    Population
    North_Sea 2.29
    Atlantic 19.00
    Baltic 5.11
    Eastern_Euro 0.30
    West_Med 15.76
    West_Asian 17.14
    East_Med 30.84
    Red_Sea 6.64
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian 0.32
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African 2.14
    Sub-Saharan 0.46


    Catania:
    Population
    North_Sea 10.80
    Atlantic 11.26
    Baltic 3.87
    Eastern_Euro -
    West_Med 21.00
    West_Asian 15.04
    East_Med 29.45
    Red_Sea 6.02
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian 0.45
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.10
    Northeast_African 1.98
    Sub-Saharan -
    Catania
    90.0% South_Italian + 10.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 @ 4.453
    89.0% South_Italian + 11.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 @ 4.461
    91.0% South_Italian + 9.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 @ 4.469
    88.0% South_Italian + 12.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 @ 4.495
    92.0% South_Italian + 8.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 @ 4.512
    87.0% South_Italian + 13.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 @ 4.553
    93.0% South_Italian + 7.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 @ 4.58
    86.0% South_Italian + 14.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 @ 4.634
    94.0% South_Italian + 6.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 @ 4.674
    85.0% South_Italian + 15.0% Anatolia Early Neolithic Tep001 @ 4.737

    Messina

    94.0% Malta + 6.0% Iran Chalcolithic I1662 @ 5.507
    93.0% Malta + 7.0% Iran Chalcolithic I1662 @ 5.508
    95.0% Malta + 5.0% Iran Chalcolithic I1662 @ 5.549
    92.0% Malta + 8.0% Iran Chalcolithic I1662 @ 5.553
    92.0% Malta + 8.0% Iraqi_Jews n=4 @ 5.572
    93.0% Malta + 7.0% Iraqi_Jews n=4 @ 5.578
    91.0% Malta + 9.0% Iraqi_Jews n=4 @ 5.593
    94.0% Malta + 6.0% Iran Chalcolithic I1674 @ 5.597
    93.0% Malta + 7.0% Iran Chalcolithic I1674 @ 5.605
    94.0% Malta + 6.0% Iraqi_Jews n=4 @ 5.612

    Syracuse
    95.0% Central_Greek + 5.0% Anatolian EF I1583 @ 4.294
    95.0% Central_Greek + 5.0% Anatolian EF I0707 @ 4.3
    96.0% Central_Greek + 4.0% Anatolian EF I1583 @ 4.302
    37.0% Cyprian + 63.0% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.308
    96.0% Central_Greek + 4.0% Anatolian EF I0707 @ 4.31
    36.0% Cyprian + 64.0% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.31
    94.0% Central_Greek + 6.0% Anatolian EF I1583 @ 4.321
    38.0% Cyprian + 62.0% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.322
    94.0% Central_Greek + 6.0% Anatolian EF I0707 @ 4.325
    35.0% Cyprian + 65.0% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.329

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