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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    Do we look at the same map?
    It's relative. In many countries they seem to treat it as if it were at the same level of a contraceptive.

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    Socioeconomic/health reasons and on demand are the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Notice here



    Low abortion rates, high percentage of people supporting the right. Abortion is seen as a drastic step to be avoided in our culture. It's a bad thing and most women avoid getting knocked up and when accidents happen they usually opt for keeping the child because emotionally an abortion is taxing and raising a child is an endeavour worth the sacrifices.
    Still most people are for the right of abortion, but it's not seen as a positive thing and celebrating it is already 'not done'.

    The provinces of North and South Holland are orange, but they have most of the immigrants. The more mono-cultural ethnic Dutch provinces are green.

    The Flemish Region is taken as a whole sadly and not chopped up into provinces.
    The more sexually "liberated" the nation, the more accustomed they will be to navigating the risks of sex and the more they will use birth control. I think those factors result in the low abortion rates, not the availability of abortion. Why would one be less likely to abort, solely because she can?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    The more sexually "liberated" the nation, the more accustomed they will be to navigating the risks of sex and the more they will use birth control. I think those factors result in the low abortion rates, not the availability of abortion. Why would one be less likely to abort, solely because she can?
    So in the rest of Europe people are ignorant about birth control methods? I doubt it.

    We're just an example of a different attitude in regards to abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    So in the rest of Europe people are ignorant about birth control methods? I doubt it.

    We're just an example of a different attitude in regards to abortion.
    That or things like birth control drugs aren't as accessible. Or maybe they see abortion itself as an acceptable birth control option. I just don't see why the rate would go down because it's more available. That's counterintuitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    That or things like birth control drugs aren't as accesible. Or maybe they see abortion itself as an acceptable birth control option. I just don't see why the rate would go down because it's more available. That's counterintuitive.
    Well, we're just very educated about sexuality and also about the psychological trauma an abortion can cause to a woman. It's culture. Hence the difference between the Flemish Region and the Walloon Region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Well, we're just very educated about sexuality and also about the psychological trauma an abortion can cause to a woman.
    Agreed. Interestingly, in the US, leftists don't like to mention any negatives with regard to abortion. To hear them talk, it is a harmless procedure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Agreed. Interestingly, in the US, leftists don't like to mention any negatives with regard to abortion. To hear them talk, it is a harmless procedure.
    It's considered very negative here an abortion. In fictional series where a woman gets pregnant accidentally, she usually opts to keep the child regardless after the right amount of drama. And in one soap (only example I can think of) a woman did opt for an abortion and suffered from depression afterward.

    Also real life examples of teen pregnancies (which are rare) most of the time end up in her keeping the child.

    EDIT: I also think people overestimate the sexual liberal attitudes of Dutch people, however. No taboo on contraceptives, but isn't this all over the Western world the case?

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    Abortion law follows the extinction of the Europeans.
    Yesterday I read that in UK 1 of each 3 born children is foreigner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    It's considered very negative here an abortion. In fictional series where a woman gets pregnant accidentally, she usually opts to keep the child regardless after the right amount of drama. And in one soap (only example I can think of) a woman did opt for an abortion and suffered from depression afterward.

    Also real life examples of teen pregancies (which are rare) most of the time end up in her keeping the child.
    It's good to hear that it's so much less politicized there. Perhaps that is a result of legalization, although I would still oppose legalization. Here, everyone's taken his side, and the obvious problems are brushed aside as propaganda. There does seem to be a trend towards the pro-life position, though.

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