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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    The way I see it is if Greek speaking Armenians from Pontus are Greek so is the first guy here.
    The way you see it is that they are Hellenised Armenians, as you've told us countless times, so this guy is a Hellenised Slav according to your point of view. You can't have your pie and eat it too. It's like trying to attribute the West Asian admixture of Peloponnesians to Pontic Greeks.

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    There are people in northern Greece who are descended from Slavic people. There are still villages in northern Greece who speak a Slavic dialect.

    And the first guy has recent ancestry from FYROM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    The way I see it is if Greek speaking Armenians from Pontus are Greek so is the first guy here.
    Yes they are Greek, but when we're talking about genetics we have to point out if they have Pontian ancestry since Pontians plot in West Asia. The guy you used is Greek, but has recent ancestry from FYROM, his results are not surprising.




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    Pontians are neither transplanted Greeks, nor hellenized Caucasians/Armenians, but something intermediate

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightrider+ View Post
    Sikeliot had to use a person born in FYROM to prove his point that Greeks are heavily Slavicised.

    Funny how the second sample gets extra Scottish/Irish/Dutch/German etc instead of Slavic.
    Yeah sure, compare it with mine...

    Dodecad:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 28.72
    2 Atlantic_Med 28.47
    3 Caucasus 26.92
    4 Southwest_Asian 9.9
    5 Gedrosia 4.49
    6 Southeast_Asian 0.57
    7 Siberian 0.49
    8 Northwest_African 0.4
    9 East_African 0.04

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.47
    2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.53
    3 Romanians (Behar) 8.84
    4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.86
    5 Greek (Dodecad) 12.21
    6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.22
    7 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.26
    8 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.39
    9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 13.92
    10 North_Italian (HGDP) 16.65
    11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.06
    12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.13
    13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.74
    14 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.75
    15 Hungarians (Behar) 21.48
    16 Baleares (1000Genomes) 24.06
    17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.44
    18 Galicia (1000Genomes) 24.49
    19 French (HGDP) 24.53
    20 French (Dodecad) 24.55

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 54.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 45.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.1
    2 55.7% German (Dodecad) + 44.3% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.62
    3 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.62
    4 53.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 46.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.67
    5 66.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 33.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.69
    6 54.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 45.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.72
    7 57.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 42.5% German (Dodecad) @ 2.76
    8 57.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 42.6% German (Dodecad) @ 2.81
    9 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.88
    10 65.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 34.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.91
    11 53.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 46.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3
    12 65.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 34.1% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.03
    13 53.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 46.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.04
    14 67.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 32.1% German (Dodecad) @ 3.07
    15 65.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 34.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.27
    16 76.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 23.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.42
    17 51.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 48.9% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.44
    18 73.1% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.45
    19 74.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.6% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 3.46
    20 66.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 33.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.47

    Eurogenes:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 20.58
    2 North_Sea 16.02
    3 West_Med 14.96
    4 Atlantic 12.5
    5 Baltic 11.54
    6 Eastern_Euro 10.23
    7 West_Asian 9.48
    8 Red_Sea 4.33
    9 Amerindian 0.37

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 5.94
    2 Bulgarian 7.55
    3 Romanian 8.09
    4 Greek 8.52
    5 Serbian 9.97
    6 Ashkenazi 10.9
    7 Tuscan 11.08
    8 Italian_Abruzzo 11.43
    9 Central_Greek 11.71
    10 East_Sicilian 12.46
    11 West_Sicilian 12.77
    12 North_Italian 13.95
    13 South_Italian 15.2
    14 Moldavian 15.49
    15 Hungarian 17.24
    16 Austrian 17.73
    17 Croatian 17.76
    18 Italian_Jewish 18.15
    19 Spanish_Galicia 19.31
    20 Sephardic_Jewish 19.35

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 54.1% Moldavian + 45.9% Italian_Jewish @ 3.29
    2 70.8% Serbian + 29.2% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.35
    3 65.8% Greek_Thessaly + 34.2% Serbian @ 3.39
    4 85.5% Greek_Thessaly + 14.5% East_Finnish @ 3.4
    5 57.2% Italian_Jewish + 42.8% Ukrainian @ 3.43
    6 52.5% Serbian + 47.5% Ashkenazi @ 3.47
    7 76.6% Serbian + 23.4% Samaritan @ 3.5
    8 72.8% Serbian + 27.2% Cyprian @ 3.56
    9 85.8% Greek_Thessaly + 14.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.58
    10 65.7% Serbian + 34.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.62
    11 85.5% Greek_Thessaly + 14.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.68
    12 85.8% Greek_Thessaly + 14.2% Finnish @ 3.69
    13 77.5% Serbian + 22.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.72
    14 62.2% Ashkenazi + 37.8% Hungarian @ 3.74
    15 86.7% Greek_Thessaly + 13.3% Erzya @ 3.75
    16 67.6% Serbian + 32.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.8
    17 56.3% Italian_Jewish + 43.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.83
    18 86.5% Greek_Thessaly + 13.5% North_Swedish @ 3.9
    19 87.3% Greek_Thessaly + 12.7% Estonian @ 3.9
    20 85.5% Greek_Thessaly + 14.5% Polish @ 3.94

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