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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazik View Post
    R1a = the haplogroup of men who don't let themselves be ruled by the EU and other shit


    R1a likes diversity, they didn't like their own R1a union too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comecon














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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    As usuall, [tfu!] democrats, are contradicting themselves.

    'Law and Justice' was DEMOCRATICALLY elected - people DEMOCRATICALLY
    gave them the right to rule and to change the acts, as they want too, as
    they promised to do or as they think it will be the best.

    These who now are loudly crying about [tfu!] democracy
    are silly, becasue they are against democracy per se.

    More than that - this "Commitee of Defending the Democracy" was
    founded by frauds, cheaters and one was even a dealer of women.

    [tfu!] Democrats defending [tfu!] democracy against [tfu!] democracy...

    Typical euromodern stupidity...
    The Polish government may have been democratically elected, but it has set about systematically dismantling the checks and balances that keep a democratic nation democratic. The EU's opposition to this course has to do with PiS' increasingly authoritarian tendencies.

    When Poland signed up to the EU, they agreed to certain principles. This is what a union is. Any union. One of those principles was independence of the judiciary - to keep it free from political interference. They are now breaking that principle and so, quite rightly, being called out for it. That is not "arrogance" on the part of the EU, just a simple expectation that members of the union stick to the community's agreements.

    Basically, the European Union is a club of democracies or it is nothing. Poland has every right to veer off on some quixotic course of its own, but if it wishes to mount some sort of post-democractic experiment then it needs to do so outside the confines of the EU. And without EU subsidies or access to EU markets.

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    Yawn. The two big parties are EU supporters.

    Before you lecture me, PIS is still pro EU, they simply want reform and stop mass immigration. Not good enough. They are not antiEU. PO is even more crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissMischief View Post
    The Polish government may have been democratically elected, but it has set about systematically dismantling the checks and balances that keep a democratic nation democratic.
    But it was chosed [tfu!] DEMOCRATICALLY.

    The EU's opposition to this course has to do with PiS' increasingly authoritarian tendencies.
    Very primitive and silly authoritarism they present, but even if they would want it in real - what is wrong with it?
    Especially, that people [tfu!] democratically choose this, so you, as a [tfu!] democrat, should respect their choice.

    When Poland signed up to the EU, they agreed to certain principles. This is what a union is. Any union. One of those principles was independence of the judiciary - to keep it free from political interference.
    It still will be.
    Only the procedure of appointing some offices will changed.
    This is unfortunatly one of the most pro-union parties, so don;t worry.

    They are now breaking that principle and so, quite rightly, being called out for it.
    No, they are not.
    They simply want change the judges who are from previous patry for their own

    And more than that, they are trying to cut off the corruption and wilfulness which
    are the results of this too big "independence" of judiciary. They do what they want,
    and they do not answer before anyone, not carrying about their job at all.

    Basically, the European Union is a club of democracies
    Sadly EU is not democratic herself, and do not respect democratic votes of people.
    So this is hypocrisy.

    access to EU markets.[/B]


    Do you want to tell me, that GB will not have, and
    for example China does not have access to EU markets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoon View Post
    PIS is still pro EU,
    Idk if they are not even bigger supporters of EU than PO.
    Just they do some things differently - that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissMischief View Post
    The Polish government may have been democratically elected, but it has set about systematically dismantling the checks and balances that keep a democratic nation democratic. The EU's opposition to this course has to do with PiS' increasingly authoritarian tendencies.

    When Poland signed up to the EU, they agreed to certain principles. This is what a union is. Any union. One of those principles was independence of the judiciary - to keep it free from political interference. They are now breaking that principle and so, quite rightly, being called out for it. That is not "arrogance" on the part of the EU, just a simple expectation that members of the union stick to the community's agreements.

    Basically, the European Union is a club of democracies or it is nothing. Poland has every right to veer off on some quixotic course of its own, but if it wishes to mount some sort of post-democractic experiment then it needs to do so outside the confines of the EU. And without EU subsidies or access to EU markets.
    Apparently the course Poland is veering off to is Belarus. There seem to be lot R1as here celebrating Poland becoming next Belarus. Which is of course extremely funny.

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