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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    It means no such thing. Trump is incredibly unpredictable - more so than many people give him credit for. Appealing to what "a Republican president" would say just doesn't work with Trump. By what I've gathered, the Syrian strike back in April, for example, occurred on Trump's whims, after he saw certain television footage. I doubt he has a coherent worldview. He merely has impulses.
    Yea but he knows he has to be careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    It means no such thing. Trump is incredibly unpredictable - more so than many people give him credit for. Appealing to what "a Republican president" would say just doesn't work with Trump. By what I've gathered, the Syrian strike back in April, for example, occurred on Trump's whims, after he saw certain television footage. I doubt he has a coherent worldview. He merely has impulses.
    Even if Trump is unpredictable and acts on impulse, that doesn't mean he wasn't serious. However, you can dismiss Trump's words if you like, because yes, he does make many off-the-cuff remarks. My position on Iran doesn't rely on Trump's words anyway. They are a very insignificant piece of the overall picture.

    I'd like your help. Two questions:

    1. If Trump's words meant no such thing, what do you think they really meant? Were they just vacuous fluff?

    2. Leave Trump's words aside and look at everything else. Where does it leave us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    Yea but he knows he has to be careful.
    The thing is, Trump's words alone can be ignored and it wouldn't change a thing.

    But look at Trump's words in conjunction with everything else that has been happening, and they do fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    The thing is, it just fits with everything else that is happening.

    Trump's words alone can be ignored. It doesn't change a thing.
    Yea i just thought about it. It doesnt what he says

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    More on the subject of the original linked article:

    President Trump suggested the U.S. could have reason to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, he said in an interview published Tuesday and Wednesday.

    “I think they’ll be noncompliant,” Mr. Trump told the Wall Street Journal, in reference to Iran’s observance of the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, which comes up for recertification in three months.

    “I think they’re taking advantage of this country,” the president said.
    Trump thinks Iran will be non-compliant with the JCPOA in October.

    Sure, it could be just more off-the-cuff bullshit from the President, but it also fits with the Foreign Policy report and H.J. Res 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    More on the subject of the original linked article:



    Trump thinks Iran will be non-compliant with the JCPOA in October.

    Sure, it could be just more off-the-cuff bullshit from the President, but it also fits with the Foreign Policy report and H.J. Res 10.
    Im curious to see what happens tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    Im curious to see what happens tbh
    The last week was a very active one for Iran-US relations in the media.

    Here are a few more articles:

    Think tank AEI may be sending a hidden message here, e.g. that a false flag event might be necessary to ensure the anti-Trump elements of the American intelligence community (and foreign allies) are on board with the US to start war with Iran
    https://www.aei.org/publication/trum...-payback-time/


    It's starting to look like Iraq all over again
    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/t...17-7?r=US&IR=T


    Trita Parsi having a cry, but there is merit in what he says about the path to war
    https://www.niacouncil.org/mask-off-...king-war-iran/


    Trump:
    “If it was up to me, I would have had them noncompliant 180 days ago,” Trump told The Wall Street Journal Tuesday, adding: “I would be surprised if they were in compliance” in 90 days.

    Senator Bob Corker is even more hawkish than Trump, and his words seem to reveal the general strategy for nuking the JCPOA, shamelessly:
    “you can only tear the agreement up one time. So when you’re going to tear it up since nothing bad is happening today.” He continued, “We gave up all of our leverage already. So wait until you have your allies aligned with you. Radically enforce it. If you radically enforce it, they’re liable and right now, I know that we’re asking — I know we’re asking to get into various facilities in Iran. If they don’t let us in, boom.”
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/27/to...the-iran-deal/

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    I think Trump will ratchet up tensions and perhaps make things hard for Iran in the region, either through proxies or more sanctions. But there won't be a war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    I think Trump will ratchet up tensions and perhaps make things hard for Iran in the region, either through proxies or more sanctions. But there won't be a war.
    It's wishful thinking to expect Iran to be spared when the others weren't and it's the last one left, but I hope you're right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    It's wishful thinking to expect Iran to be spared when the others weren't and it's the last one left, but I hope you're right.
    Iran isn't Iraq. It would be a significant commitment on the part of the US. It will be a prolonged war and no doubt a sinking morass for the American military.

    Undoubtedly, it would also be the end of America's reign as a superpower. If a weakened and disunited Iraq was a drain, Iran would be 6X more so considering it is far larger, far more populated, far more powerful, far more united and far more mountainous.

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