What percentage of Greek population is ethnic Greek?

[Kouros]

Yes, we don't know for certain how they looked like, but the first waves of Indo-Europeans were most likely Irano-Nordid/Proto-Nordid. Yamnaya was certainly darker, but when the first IEs started to spread they were already mixed with more light people. The most likely hypothesis is that they were what I described, Proto-Nordic/Irano-Nordid. It is an almost extinct phenotype btw, only in isolated groups around Asia with high steppe ancestry this phenotype pops-up eventually.

Interesting, interesting. I'm new to this stuff and I haven't taken time to actually read anything detailed on the subject (Proto/Indo-Europeans & other cultures) any book you recommend?

About the Kalash, they have been tested, and it is already proved they are the most Steppe-like group in South Asia. They have more steppe ancestry than a substantial quantity of European groups.

Can you link me the study. I know they are the most steppe-like in South Asia but 'more steppe ancestry than a substantial quantity of European groups', I have not heard of. On the wiki it says t "the western Eurasian presence in the Kalash population reaches a frequency of 100%" and I'm not sure what that means.

[JMack]

Interesting, interesting. I'm new to this stuff and I haven't taken time to actually read anything detailed on the subject (Proto/Indo-Europeans & other cultures) any book you recommend?

These are good starters:

https://www.amazon.com/Search-Indo-E...CDGCHDYMW58PY1

https://www.amazon.com/Horse-Wheel-L...EMB632S93C5TE3

https://www.amazon.com/Ancestral-Jou...EMB632S93C5TE3

Can you link me the study. I know they are the most steppe-like in South Asia but 'more steppe ancestry than a substantial quantity of European groups', I have not heard of. On the wiki it says t "the western Eurasian presence in the Kalash population reaches a frequency of 100%" and I'm not sure what that means.

Can't link you the study right now, I'm on my girlfriend's house, haha.

But search MagnusAurelius threads around here, he posted these Kalash studies all around countless times in his discussions with Fractal. Almost all threads started by him here have some Kalash genetic study. You can also see the results of the Afghan-American member Myanthropologies, he is VERY Steppe-shifted. He even cluster with Yamnaya in some calculators. Most Southern and Western Europeans doesn't even have that big amount of steppe ancestry.

R1a haplogroup, associated with early Indo-Europeans, peaks in Slavs, some Iranic groups and Northwestern Indians.

When the study says the Kalash can have 100% Western Eurasian ancestry it means they can be 100% Caucasoid, i.e., some of them don't have ASI admixture.

[Kouros]

I'm saying they are Greek culturally and linguistically for at least 2500 years.

Ok. Problem is that the ones I'm referring to haven't been speaking Greek for 2500 years either because they are literally just Orthodox Georgians and Armenians from Trabzon, they're ancestors have probably been speaking Greek for 300 years at an absolute max and they have nothing in common outside of language.

[Kouros]

These are good starters:

https://www.amazon.com/Search-Indo-E...CDGCHDYMW58PY1

https://www.amazon.com/Horse-Wheel-L...EMB632S93C5TE3

https://www.amazon.com/Ancestral-Jou...EMB632S93C5TE3



Can't link you the study right now, I'm on my girlfriend's house, haha.

But search MagnusAurelius threads around here, he posted these Kalash studies all around countless times in his discussions with Fractal. Almost all threads started by him here have some Kalash genetic study. You can also see the results of the Afghan-American member Myanthropologies, he is VERY Steppe-shifted. He even cluster with Yamnaya in some calculators. Most Southern and Western Europeans doesn't even have that big amount of steppe ancestry.

R1a haplogroup, associated with early Indo-Europeans, peaks in Slavs, some Iranic groups and Northwestern Indians.

When the study says the Kalash can have 100% Western Eurasian ancestry it means they can be 100% Caucasoid, i.e., some of them don't have ASI admixture.

Thanks bro. Gonna check out those books and look for threads with that guy.

[Hellenas]

Ok. Problem is that the ones I'm referring to haven't been speaking Greek for 2500 years either because they are literally just Orthodox Georgians and Armenians from Trabzon, they're ancestors have probably been speaking Greek for 300 years at an absolute max and they have nothing in common outside of language.

Pontians of Trabzon according to Aris Poulianos belong mainly to the Armenoid type, probably being mixed with Caucasian people such as Laz people and Armenians, so mixed Greeks. The Turkophone Greeks of Erzerum mainly belong to the Iranid/Iranoid type(the Iranid type is the swarthy skinned Middle Easterner). Erzerum except of Greeks and Armenians also had many Kurds. Also along with Pontians, Armenians and some other Caucasian people, like Georgians, came in Greece too.

Greek Armenoids of Trabzon are not hellenized Armenians and other Caucasians but mixed Greeks with Caucasians.

When I see such Pontians, I don't see Armenians or Georgians but mixed Greeks with Caucasians.

[Gangrel]

Dude, It's 3ied. Have some shame for once. The fact that some Cretan Greek managed to get you so very triggered that you resort to troll them and other Greeks by opening countless threads like this says a lot.

What do you mean trolling other Greeks? Other Greeks are calling out Lavrentis for his bullshit about calling the majority of his country non-greek when Cretans score closest to Cypriots

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That Armenoid-mongoloid Gultekin should take a look at his armenoid fugly people. Even those cherry picked Pontians, Cypriots, Cretans including gypsies that he posted look far more human than his unibrow hooked nosed people.

Greeks have been shown to be very closely related to their ancestors, can we say the same about the highly mongrelised Turkoarmenoid semitomongoloid race? They have picked up the worst traits of any race hence their mongrelised ugly looks. Look at Gultekin an armenoid mongoloid mix. Repulsive af.

































Paulos Fyssas look far more human than those subhuman above. How he really looked in really life, brown hair and whiter than your average armenoid turk



How the armenoid rat Gultekin tries to portray him



How Kassidiaris looks like



Still whiter than your average Turk

Golden dawn mp



whiter than your average Turk.

[wvwvw]

[wvwvw]

Paulos Fyssas:




Paulos Fyssas mother


Paulos Fyssas mother, father and brother

Now compare him to these gypsy armenoids ultra nationalistic Turks. I am convinced the closest relatives to Turks are the gypsies

















And these mongoloarmenoids are calling this guy gypsy, hilarious!

[Linet]

εδω υπάρχει ενας έρωτας μεγαλος..

Που που που;;;;

Εχουν δικιο οι Τουρκοι τους δινουν δικαιοματα μερικοι Ελληνες με της μαλακιες τους....
Ρεζιλη

Σκετο μπουρδελλο το κανανε

Συμφωνώ

Σιγά τα δικαιώματα. Έχουμε να κρύψουμε τίποτα; Οι Έλληνες είναι μόνο 91-92% Ευρωπαίοι, ένα 8-9% του Ελληνικού πληθυσμού, οπουδήποτε στην Ελλάδα και να πας, είναι εξω-Ευρωπαϊκό.

Όσοι δεν ξέρουν του Έλληνες, ας έρθουν να τους δούνε.

Μην φοβάσαι και οι πιο πολλοί ξέρουν πως είναι οι Έλληνες, απλώς τρολάρουν(Τούρκοι, Αλβανοί, Νορδιστές, παλιότερα Σκοπιανοί κτλ.).

Δηλαδή θα μπορούσε κάποιος να σου αλλάξει γνώμη για το τι είναι οι Ιταλοί ή οι Ισπανοί αν έστελνε φωτογραφίες εξωτικών τύπων;

Αυτό που οι πιο πολλοί αγνοούν είναι η γενετική, αλλά όχι όλοι πλέον.

Και τι μας πειράζει αυτό το 9%; Στο κάτω-κάτω δεν σημαίνει ότι είναι πρόσφατο...άσε που όλοι οι Ευρωπαίοι έχουν ένα αντίστοιχο ποσοστό...επομένως γιατί είμαστε εμείς το πρόβλημα; Γιατί να το τονίζουμε συνέχεια λες και οι άλλοι έχουν το δικαίωμα να μας κρίνουν;

Βασικά αυτή η απάντηση δεν θα έπρεπε να πηγαίνει σε σένα...Στον Λαυρέντη πήγαινε που ή αδυνατεί να χρησιμοποιήσει τον εγκέφαλο του ή είναι ανθέλληνας και δεν βλέπει Έλληνες πουθενά στην Ελλάδα.

What about me ? I'm also half Ionian islander, I don't count ?

Of course not ...first succeed to tan for once in your life and then come to talk.......
..Every summer the same story, you get abit pinkish and you party like and old English lady who saw the sun.....

His surname ends in -idis, which means that that has Anatolian Greek ancestry (most Anatolian Greek surnames end in -idis).

and?????
They are Greeks...you know? GREEKS...which you are probably not....

LOOOL I wear to God those Greeks hate Cypriots more than they hate Turks

I have started to think the same

How do we hate them you retarded man-child? Because we say the truth, that they are Greek speaking Levantines?

OWD Turks like you don't like seeing Greeks say the truth about Greek speaking groups like Cypriots because that crushes your hopes of being associated with Greeks.

You say no truth, you are either retarded either you are a non Greek. You have denied the 80% of the Greek population....Why dont you denounce Crete i wonder???? Is it because you come from there? After Cyprus the next to go should be Creta...not the Ionians nor the Pontics...so why dont you do it?

Plus since you dont feel there are any Greeks to Greece anyway, please stop referring to yourself as a Greek....you arent related to us anyway.....I am Cypriot and thus GREEK and so you arent related to me...right? Hellenas is an Ionian from Minoe Asia so you arent related to him right? He is too Greek for you... Dark is Macedonian and of course you cant be related to him....and ok QueenB although too whitie for our swarthy clan....you havent denounced her Ionian Greek feelows yet but i forbid you to claim her (I saw her first plus she is my friend).
So yeah, start claiming you are a true citizen of Kato Potamia or however your village is called and dont bother with Greeks any more....ok? Also dont post the threads about your mighty Kato Potamia civilisation to the Greek threads...maybe Gultekin will agree to let you post to the Turkish section....But please leave Greeks into their Greekness and follow your own true path.

Armeno-Saharan nigger, Cypriots are closer to you, why would I care? I actually enjoy reading your hateful comments, you hate Cypriots because you are an insecure nordicist cunt who tends to excommunicate anyone with dark features.

The thing is you are very similar to Cypriots genetically, which means you are not in a position to call them Hellenized Levantines.


These are your people, what if mainlanders start calling your MENA-looking people Hellenized Arabs? Your people score 17% SW Asian admixture (similar to Cypriots), I think mainlanders should avoid mixing with Cretans for their own sake.


This is what you see when you stop living on an online forum and go outside LOL, deal with it
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I see your point and its correct....the other Greeks stop to the fact that you are Turk and fail to see what you are really saying....which is actually accurate (apart from the trolling parts of course )