Catalonia to hold independence vote.

[Lluna Plena]

https://lasxtribus.wordpress.com

The truth is out there...

[Potentia]

I really don't understand why some Catalans want independence.

I mean, do they really have it that bad under Spain? No.

[Lluna Plena]

"Nation may refer to a large group of people who share a common language, culture, ethnicity, descent, or history. Nation can refer to “a people, race, or tribe; those having the same descent, language, and history.” Webster’s New Encyclopedic Dictionary defines nation as “a community of people composed of one or more nationalities with its own territory and government” and also as “a tribe or federation of tribes (as of American Indians)”. Nation carries varying meanings, and the connotation of the term has changed over time.
Catalonia is not (yet) an State, but definitively it has all the attributes of a Nation. Catalunya is a large (7 million people, like Switzerland, and more than Norway, almost two times Ireland)) group of people who share a common language (Catalan), culture, ethnicity - although this is a fuzzy concept - descent and history. The History of Catalunya merged with the history of Spain in the XV Century ("Compromiso de Caspe") whan, after dinastic struggles, the Crown of the Kingdom of Catalunya y Aragon went to Fernando de Antequera. Since then Catalunya is part of the Kingdom of Spain."

The more the state stops us, the more we will push for freedom!

[Potentia]

"Nation may refer to a large group of people who share a common language, culture, ethnicity, descent, or history. Nation can refer to “a people, race, or tribe; those having the same descent, language, and history.” Webster’s New Encyclopedic Dictionary defines nation as “a community of people composed of one or more nationalities with its own territory and government” and also as “a tribe or federation of tribes (as of American Indians)”. Nation carries varying meanings, and the connotation of the term has changed over time.
Catalonia is not (yet) an State, but definitively it has all the attributes of a Nation. Catalunya is a large (7 million people, like Switzerland, and more than Norway, almost two times Ireland)) group of people who share a common language (Catalan), culture, ethnicity - although this is a fuzzy concept - descent and history. The History of Catalunya merged with the history of Spain in the XV Century ("Compromiso de Caspe") whan, after dinastic struggles, the Crown of the Kingdom of Catalunya y Aragon went to Fernando de Antequera. Since then Catalunya is part of the Kingdom of Spain."

The more the state stops us, the more we will push for freedom!

You share a history with Spain as well?

Why should you Catalans be the ones to get independence? Why not the Galicians? Or the Basques? Or the Leonese? Or even the Andalusians?

[Lluna Plena]

I really don't understand why some Catalans want independence.

I mean, do they really have it that bad under Spain? No.

Yes, off course we have. Read and learn more about our conflict...

A bit old documentary, but stil valid....

[Potentia]

Yes, off course we have. Read and learn more about our conflict...

A bit old documentary, but stil valid....

I seriously doubt that you have it that bad.

Take France, for example. They suppress their minority culture, and make everyone follow the cosmopolitan culture. Spain doesn't do that.

Furthermore, Spain is a democracy now. They're not ruled by Franco anymore, no one is trying to destroy your cultural heritage.

[BarcelonaAtlantis]

Its high time you know these imposters known spaniards are crypto pharisees.Click on the link and you will understand why they wanted the real Spanish identity https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...hidden-history

[Melki]

Then, for selfish economic issues coming from the corrupt Catalan political class. Then, Catalan independentism is not rightfully justified.

The CDC (Democratic Convergence of Catalonia) before it was renamed into PDeCAT (Catalan European Democratic Party) last year, was involved in scandals of illegal party funding by business partners.
But honestly, do you know a single political party reputed for its honest practices? Me not.

It doesn't change the fact that each ethnicity in the world should have the right to self-determination.
If I were you, I will be more worried about the true chaos reigning in Venezuela, on the brink of civil war.

[Incal]

TBH, there are bigger differences between regions of Italy, Germany or France than between Catalonia and other spanish regions for example. Most separatists are just spoiled, selfish brats that want to take advantage of Spain's concessions. Spain should have followed France's approach in that particular regard...

[Melki]

TBH, there are bigger differences between regions of Italy, Germany or France than between Catalonia and other spanish regions for example. Most separatists are just spoiled, selfish brats that want to take advantage of Spain's concessions. Spain should have followed France's approach in that particular regard...

I agree for France, home of various ethnicities (Romance, Germanic, Celtic, Basques... not to mention the Amerindian tribes living in the Amazonian rainforest in Guiana or the Kanaks and Polynesians living in the Pacific)...
But why Italy and Germany? These countries are ethnically more homogeneous than Spain. Especially Germany, where everybody is Deutsch, let aside a handful of scattered Sorbians, Danes and Frisians.