Is Paganism our only hope against Islam?

[Grumpy Cat]

Sorry Bryn, I just think wulfhere has a penchant for being full of shit and he's using "being oathbound" as an excuse. YouTube or it didn't happen.

Other people who do magic have no problem putting it on YouTube or even on TV.

As for other questions for me, I will respond when I get access to a real computer. Don't feel like posting a long response on a smartphone.

[Wulfhere]

Sorry Bryn, I just think wulfhere has a penchant for being full of shit and he's using "being oathbound" as an excuse. YouTube or it didn't happen.

Other people who do magic have no problem putting it on YouTube or even on TV.

As for other questions for me, I will respond when I get access to a real computer. Don't feel like posting a long response on a smartphone.

Can you provide a link to any YouTube clip that involves real magic, please?

[Grumpy Cat]

Can you provide a link to any YouTube clip that involves real magic, please?

Hellasson sent me one once, ask him.

[Vasconcelos]

Can you provide a link to any YouTube clip that involves real magic, please?

There's no such thing as real magic, only tricks that people don't realize/understand and as a consequence have no way to properly explain.

[Psychonaut]

There's no such thing as real magic, only tricks that people don't realize/understand and as a consequence have no way to properly explain.

That's a very, very, very broad statement that is entirely contingent upon what is meant by the term magic. I'm willing to bet that your definition is different from that being used by others in this thread. But, if you're going to be adamant about the unreality of such a thing, your definition would be nice to know before anyone starts arguing with you.

[Wulfhere]

There's no such thing as real magic, only tricks that people don't realize/understand and as a consequence have no way to properly explain.

Really? And you know this how, exactly?

[Adalwolf]

There's no such thing as real magic, only tricks that people don't realize/understand and as a consequence have no way to properly explain.

''Magic'' performed at the carnival or on a stage show is very different from the kind that people dabble with when they get involved with the occult.

[Murphy]

''Magic'' performed at the carnival or on a stage show is very different from the kind that people dabble with when they get involved with the occult.

Indeed. The cost of dealing with the demonic is a high price.

[Wulfhere]

Indeed. The cost of dealing with the demonic is a high price.

Do you have personal experience of this?

[Murphy]

Do you have personal experience of this?

Please. I am no fool. I wont even stay in a friend's house if they pull out a ouija board.