Is Paganism our only hope against Islam?

[Hurrem sultana]

Islam also allows the murder of Jews, including specific ways to do so.

This is a lie,no where in the Koran you will find your proof for this.The jews christians,and sabeans are considered "the people of the book"


A hadith says if a muslim man is married to a woman that belong to one of those religions he has to make sure she can practice her faith,if it is needed...he has to make sure she is able to go to church every Sunday

this is just one example of how islam supports slaughtering of the people of the book

[PetiteParisienne]

Please post JUST Quranic sources please

Here are some friendly ones for you:

"Because of the wrongdoing of the Jews.... And of their taking usury ... and of their devouring people's wealth by false pretenses. We have prepared for those of them who disbelieve a painful doom."[Surah IV, v. 160, 161]

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” 8:12

"Let not the unbelievers think they will ever get away. They have not
the power to do so. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at
your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of Allah
and your enemy... Prophet, (Muhammed) rouse the faithful to arms!
If they (the non-Muslims) incline to peace (accept Islam) make
peace with them." - Sura 8:59

“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” 2:19

“Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.” 47:4

[Laudanum]

Fixed.

It's not as if writing ''Hail'' as ''Heil'' makes you a nazi...

[PetiteParisienne]

Anyway, I think we should get back to talking about Paganism.

[Wulfhere]

Hadith crap came 300 years after the Prophet passed away. Even Bukhari said that he can only guaranty the "legitimacy" only of few dozen and if you think that 1,5 MILLION of Hadiths are all well preserved "religious canon" then you are walking down the wrong way of the Sanity Avenue.



I am asking only Quranic verses (ie. original and only Holy texts in Islam) and not "what Muhamed might have said"

Haditha are part of Islam and its law no matter how much you try and deny it or to change the goalposts. Typical Muslim tactic, lie and dissemble.

[Sultan Suleiman]

Here are some friendly ones for you:

"Because of the wrongdoing of the Jews.... And of their taking usury ... and of their devouring people's wealth by false pretenses. We have prepared for those of them who disbelieve a painful doom."[Surah IV, v. 160, 161]

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” 8:12

"Let not the unbelievers think they will ever get away. They have not
the power to do so. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at
your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of Allah
and your enemy... Prophet, (Muhammed) rouse the faithful to arms!
If they (the non-Muslims) incline to peace (accept Islam) make
peace with them." - Sura 8:59

“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” 2:19

“Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.” 47:4

Did some mighty fine copy pasting from Jihadwatch.org or likes of it. I will respond to these more "aggressive" Surahs tomorrow, right now I am just to tired and wasted for a bit more serious theological debate.

And you might wanna double check the bolded Surah mate

[Sultan Suleiman]

Haditha are part of Islam and its law no matter how much you try and deny it or to change the goalposts. Typical Muslim tactic, lie and dissemble.

Son check when and how and by whom (in patronship of which lord) were "Hadith" collections completed.


And by that logic how did Islam survive for 400 years without use of Hadiths?

[Hurrem sultana]

surahs posted out of contexts,or translated in a wrong way(it is too late though to check every one of them)..yet even in those you don't find any calls for slaughtering,you cant claim something and then ignore to prove it

[Laudanum]

People moan too much. The bible is full of violence as well. It isn't about the books themselves, it's about the people who read them. There will always be retards who think they should literally do the stuff they read, regardless what religion or political ideology they support.

[Sultan Suleiman]

surahs posted out of contexts,or translated in a wrong way(it is too late though to check every one of them)..yet even in those you don't find any calls for slaughtering,you cant claim something and then ignore to prove it

Ljepoto smiri se. I've got this covered