E1b Y-DNA in Europe

[Dick]

We're can't be sure until we get aDNA of the Spartans.

What about the Mycenaean samples from this year?

[Wrong]

They do it for Myceneans and they were J2, Myceneans are forefathers of Spartans so Spartans most probably
were both J2,EV13 and maybe R1

They didn't find enough of samples to make any conclusion yet. Those J2a might have mixed with northern R1 invaders.

Spartans were Dorians as most evidence and writings show. As I say, it wouldnt surprise me if they get J2a anyway.

[DarknessWin]

Nope, Baltic peoples like Lithuanians, Latvians etc have the most WHG in Europe

Estonians have the most 49.5% and Finns are 47%,
but among Lapps in Finland are higher

[DarknessWin]

Osmans kept you under foot during 600 years...

Osmans never come here, they put mercenaries from Balkan and traitors to do the job.
Half of the Greeks joined them and we sent them in Turkey when Balkans were free.

You can see the East Asian mix in Greece is 0%

[Rethel]

Osmans never come here, they put mercenaries from Balkan and traitors to do the job.
Half of the Greeks joined them and we sent them in Turkey when Balkans were free.

You can see the East Asian mix in Greece is 0%

It is hard for them to live some asian DNA if they themselves were
mostly autosomaly european or caucasian, and during first hundrets
years counted bearly one person... later they number was not bigger
than couple of dozens... so how they could...

[Wrong]

What about the Mycenaean samples from this year?

They J2a Mycaeneans in the mainland must have gotten Steppe admixture from somewhere, as J2a Minoans weren't Indo-Europeans and did not have this admixture iirc.

[Philip Latinowitz]

Dream on,
its native Thracian-Hellenic Balkan

most of I2 in balkans is slavic

but maybe you have native subclade

[Wrong]

most of I2 in balkans is slavic

but maybe you have native suclade

Yeah. I2a2 is pre-Slavic

[Philip Latinowitz]

btw guys, how common is M67 in greece ?



thanks in advance.

[Wrong]

btw guys, how common is M67 in greece ?



thanks in advance.

20-35% depending on areas if we combine J2a & J2b.

Most in Crete, particularly J2a.