Rapes are the fault of Norwegian girls

[Loki]

It's problematic that such nightclubs exist in the first place. What in God's name were women doing around those types?

Uhm ... they are not found where you live? Nothing wrong with nightclubs.

[Adalwolf]

How do you know? Do you have any source of it?

Yes. Take a look at Switzerland for example, one of the few countries to establish this new law. It just barely passed, 52.9% in favor.

Swiss voters taking part in a referendum Sunday have said yes to new regulations on the deportation of foreigners convicted of crimes ranging from murder to drug trafficking.

Some 52.9 per cent of voters backed the proposal put forward by the right-wing Swiss People's Party to automatically deport foreigners convicted of serious crimes.

The plan was opposed by 47.1 per cent of voters.

A more moderate government-backed counter-proposal was rejected. It would have required a case-by-case review by a judge before a deportation.

Swiss People's Party parliamentarian Yves Nidegger said the vote shows the majority of Swiss consider foreign criminality to be a problem and the solution is to deport foreigners who commit a crime.

He said the vote marks a first step to a greater security.

Migrant rights advocate Yasmina Causevic said there are already laws in place to address the issue of foreigners who commit crimes.

"It's already possible to expel criminals who threaten national security, so there is absolutely no need for new laws," she said.

The Swiss People's Party's campaign had featured posters showing a group of white sheep kicking a black sheep off the Swiss flag.

Currently, about 750 foreigners are expelled from Switzerland every year.

[alexandra]

it is a choice to dress in such a way that might attract danger or harassment of sexual persuasion as much as it is a choice to harm or rape someone who chooses to dress this way. we could be talking about this instance or a frat party flooded with 20 year olds, i guess ultimately it should be that people who demand that sort of attention should be "less surprised" it happened, but not at all to blame for some sick fuck's terrible choice.

just because common sense suggests that there is indeed a risk involved with dressing like this, does not mean that if the risk becomes a reality that it is excused, under any circumstance. one has to take responsibility for their own actions, but this doesn't mean that people won't try to shirk responsibility if they see a factor in the situation as a possible justification to accompany doing something terrible that benefits them.

[Karl der Große]

It's problematic that such nightclubs exist in the first place. What in God's name were women doing around those types?

They want fun what's the problem? Many night clubs in Germany are barring the entry of Turks and Africans because of situations of harassment and rapes. Austria has done it since the 90s.

[Debaser11]

Uhm ... they are not found where you live? Nothing wrong with nightclubs.

Sure, they are. But what does their proxmity to me have to do with anything?

Nightclubs are centers of decadence. I have high reservations about most of them for very real reasons.

[Karl der Große]

Recently, an immigrant who killed a girl in England could not be deported, since he had children with an English woman afterwards ...

In such situations citizenship should be withdrawn.

[Loki]

Sure, they are. But what does their proxmity to me have to do with anything?

Nightclubs are centers of decadence. I have high reservations about most of them for very real reasons.

Well, there are nightclubs and there are nightclubs. It's like blaming a fast car for a speeding ticket. It's not the car, but the driver ...

[Liffrea]

Originally Posted by Brynhild
What never ceases to bother me is how such brutes justify their actions by blaming it on the woman who allegedly asks for it just because she shows a bit of skin and wants to go to a pub or club, enjoy a few drinks and have a good time.

If you’ve ever been out in England on a Friday or Saturday night you will find what an unedifying spectacle it often is. “Having a good time” involves being so shit faced you cannot stand, vomiting in the street, if you’re lucky ending up in some strangers bed, and the women are as bad as the men.

Obviously nobody asks to be raped but nobody asks to be mugged either, yet if you broadcast expensive jewellery in the less savoury parts of town or waved twenties around……you would have to be a bit dumb if you wondered why you were face down outside the pub with a cracked skull and short of cash and your jewellery. Why make it easier? Watch any news item in England about binge drinking it often shows girls vomiting in the streets wearing less than they would in the bedroom. If you’re that pissed you can’t stand and have no idea where you are or what you’re doing you might as well have a neon light on top of your head with rape/mug/kick fuck out of me flashing on it.

Criminals are opportunists, give them the opportunity and they will take it.

[Brynhild]

Just deported? What a cop-out! They'll just catch the next plane back again. Why stay in filthy Africa when you can rape Norwegian girls for free?

I get your point, but as I understand it, if such criminals are charged and convicted, they would have a hard time going anywhere else legally because the record against them is noted.

@ Karl D G the non-citizens would serve time first and then be deported. I wish this applies to overseas born residents as well.

[Debaser11]

They want fun what's the problem? Many night clubs in Germany are barring the entry of Turks and Africans because of situations of harassment and rapes. Austria has done it since the 90s.

What people consider fun these days is the precisely the problem. It's telling that you even have to euphemize when you know good and well what their "fun" is just by calling it such and being very vague about it.


Again, to be clear, I'm not blaming these women for being raped. But rapes are a symptom of the West's overall larger problems that people on this board of all places, strangely enough, won't acknowledge.

I think Liffrea has summed up my thoughts on the matter quite well.

And I was "young" once. I know what "going out" and "having fun" is all about. You make it sound innocent when much of it is very serious.