Ulash's (1/2 Turkish, 1/4 Kyrgyz, 1/4 Kazakh) GEDmatch Results

[Ulash]

I am not good at interpreting these results so can anyone do it?

Eurogenes K13

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 21.07
2 Siberian 17.39
3 East_Med 15.90
4 East_Asian 14.14
5 Baltic 8.95
6 North_Atlantic 7.54
7 West_Med 7.48
8 Red_Sea 3.61
9 South_Asian 1.59
10 Oceanian 1.46


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Nogay @ 14.294887
2 Afghan_Turkmen @ 14.906313
3 Uzbeki @ 16.776674
4 Aghan_Hazara @ 18.595825
5 Uygur @ 19.540276
6 Turkmen @ 19.789845
7 Hazara @ 20.758472
8 Afghan_Tadjik @ 25.256683
9 Turkish @ 25.416929
10 Azeri @ 27.483135
11 Tadjik @ 27.593716
12 Kazakh @ 27.865797
13 Kumyk @ 28.220177
14 Kirgiz @ 29.117001
15 Balkar @ 29.426743
16 Kabardin @ 29.929871
17 Central_Greek @ 31.469776
18 East_Sicilian @ 32.062813
19 Greek_Thessaly @ 32.103680
20 Italian_Abruzzo @ 32.285637

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kazakh +50% Turkish @ 4.092393


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kazakh +25% Kumyk +25% Samaritan @ 3.860117


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Ashkenazi + Georgian + Mongolian + Uygur @ 3.230536
2 Adygei + Italian_Jewish + Mongolian + Uygur @ 3.258468
3 Hezhen + Lebanese_Christian + Ossetian + Tatar @ 3.314651
4 Ashkenazi + Georgian + Kazakh + Kirgiz @ 3.385172
5 Armenian + Hezhen + Tatar + Turkish @ 3.418973
6 Adygei + Ashkenazi + Mongolian + Uygur @ 3.433433
7 Adygei + Algerian_Jewish + Mongolian + Uygur @ 3.433478
8 Italian_Jewish + Mongolian + North_Ossetian + Uygur @ 3.448922
9 Cyprian + Kazakh + Kazakh + Kumyk @ 3.450753
10 Cyprian + Kazakh + Kirgiz + Kumyk @ 3.454563
11 Adygei + Mongolian + Sephardic_Jewish + Uygur @ 3.480711
12 Adygei + Mongolian + Tunisian_Jewish + Uygur @ 3.506601
13 Ashkenazi + Georgian + Kirgiz + Kirgiz @ 3.508002
14 Adygei + Kazakh + Kirgiz + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.511789
15 Abhkasian + Ashkenazi + Kazakh + Kirgiz @ 3.513643
16 Hezhen + Ossetian + Samaritan + Tatar @ 3.535594
17 Chechen + Mongolian + Tunisian_Jewish + Uygur @ 3.556105
18 Georgian + Italian_Jewish + Kazakh + Kazakh @ 3.568265
19 Hezhen + Lebanese_Druze + Ossetian + Tatar @ 3.572232
20 Kazakh + Lebanese_Christian + Nogay + Uygur @ 3.572274

Dodecad K12b

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 20.80
2 East_Asian 19.68
3 Gedrosia 13.63
4 North_European 12.20
5 Atlantic_Med 11.40
6 Siberian 11.03
7 Southwest_Asian 7.80
8 Southeast_Asian 2.30


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Uzbeks_Behar @ 14.940156
2 Uygur_HGDP @ 20.300627
3 Hazara_HGDP @ 21.463066
4 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 22.447542
5 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 23.022385
6 Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 27.227114
7 Turks_Behar @ 31.731092
8 Turkish_Dodecad @ 31.904909
9 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 33.659985
10 Iranian_Dodecad @ 34.085537
11 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 34.092678
12 Kurd_Dodecad @ 34.147400
13 Iranians_Behar @ 34.338676
14 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 34.513309
15 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 34.562237
16 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 34.834076
17 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 34.998146
18 Greek_Dodecad @ 35.147442
19 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 35.234760
20 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 35.292446

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar +50% Hazara_HGDP @ 7.951875


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hazara_HGDP +25% Morocco_Jews_Behar +25% Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 5.799891


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Kurds_Yunusbayev + Mongol_Rasmussen + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uygur_HGDP @ 2.908122
2 Mongol_Rasmussen + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uygur_HGDP + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 3.059183
3 Kurd_Dodecad + Mongol_Rasmussen + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uygur_HGDP @ 3.092280
4 Daur_HGDP + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 3.187781
5 Kurds_Yunusbayev + Mongol_Rasmussen + TSI30_Metspalu + Uygur_HGDP @ 3.196650
6 Kurds_Yunusbayev + Mongol_Rasmussen + Tuscan_HGDP + Uygur_HGDP @ 3.342004
7 Kurd_Dodecad + Mongol_Rasmussen + TSI30_Metspalu + Uygur_HGDP @ 3.349759
8 Daur_HGDP + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 3.369366
9 Daur_HGDP + Dutch_Dodecad + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 3.369994
10 C_Italian_Dodecad + Kurds_Yunusbayev + Mongol_Rasmussen + Uygur_HGDP @ 3.386573
11 Mongol_Rasmussen + N_Italian_Dodecad + Uygur_HGDP + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 3.416623
12 Kurd_Dodecad + Mongol_Rasmussen + Tuscan_HGDP + Uygur_HGDP @ 3.449141
13 C_Italian_Dodecad + Kurd_Dodecad + Mongol_Rasmussen + Uygur_HGDP @ 3.505532
14 Daur_HGDP + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Kent_1000Genomes + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 3.543258
15 CEU30_1000Genomes + Daur_HGDP + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 3.587550
16 Kurds_Yunusbayev + Mongol_Rasmussen + N_Italian_Dodecad + Uygur_HGDP @ 3.599401
17 Daur_HGDP + English_Dodecad + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 3.602726
18 Daur_HGDP + French_Dodecad + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 3.609019
19 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mongol_Rasmussen + N_Italian_Dodecad + Uygur_HGDP @ 3.622821
20 Iranian_Dodecad + Mongol_Rasmussen + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uygur_HGDP @ 3.634603

MDLP K23b

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 23.97
2 Tungus-Altaic 16.72
3 South_Central_Asian 10.45
4 European_Early_Farmers 10.12
5 South_East_Asian 9.43
6 Ancestral_Altaic 6.55
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 6.54
8 Near_East 4.79
9 East_Siberian 4.03
10 North_African 2.83
11 Australoid 1.56


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 12.548963
2 Uzbek_ @ 14.614859
3 Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 15.475144
4 Karakalpak_ @ 16.680698
5 Uygur-Han_ @ 17.088224
6 Nogai_ @ 17.364613
7 Tajik_Tajikistan_ @ 18.108055
8 Uygur_ @ 18.857645
9 Hazara_ @ 20.831728
10 Kazahs_ @ 21.951023
11 Turk_Aydin_ @ 22.004719
12 Crimean_Tatar_Step_ @ 22.502317
13 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 22.791834
14 Tatar-Siberian_ @ 23.379425
15 Tajik_Afghan_ @ 24.246077
16 Kazakh_ @ 24.527302
17 Turk_ @ 25.713017
18 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 25.749212
19 Turk_Adana_ @ 26.023302
20 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 26.309267

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kyrgyz_Bishkek_ +50% Turk_Balikesir_ @ 6.487907


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kyrgyz_Bishkek_ +25% Sephardic_Jew_ +25% Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 5.024885


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Karakalpak_ + Mongolian_QH_ + Sephardic_Jew_ + Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 3.610687
2 Italian_Jew_ + Karakalpak_ + Mongolian_QH_ + Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 3.681856
3 French_Jew_ + Karakalpak_ + Mongolian_QH_ + Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 3.687065
4 Mongolian_QH_ + Sicilian_Trapani_ + Turk_Kayseri_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 3.726558
5 Mongolian_QH_ + Sicilian_Trapani_ + Turk_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 3.754030
6 Mongolian_QH_ + Sicilian_West_ + Turk_Kayseri_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 3.755544
7 Karakalpak_ + Mongolian_QH_ + Sicilian_Agrigento_ + Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 3.766734
8 Mongolian_QH_ + Sicilian_Agrigento_ + Turk_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 3.769253
9 Karakalpak_ + Mongolian_QH_ + Stalskoe_Kumyk_ + Turk_Jew_ @ 3.770573
10 Italian_Jew_ + Mongolian_QH_ + Stalskoe_Kumyk_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 3.778347
11 Azeri_Dagestan_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + Karakalpak_ + Mongolian_QH_ @ 3.806691
12 Mongolian_QH_ + Sicilian_West_ + Turk_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 3.810169
13 Maltese_ + Mongolian_QH_ + Turk_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 3.853579
14 Karakalpak_ + Mongolian_QH_ + Moroccan_Jew_ + Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 3.864903
15 Mongolian_QH_ + Sicilian_Agrigento_ + Turk_Kayseri_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 3.871297
16 Mongolian_QH_ + Stalskoe_Kumyk_ + Turk_Jew_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 3.879411
17 Maltese_ + Mongolian_QH_ + Turk_Kayseri_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 3.879633
18 Azeri_Dagestan_ + Karakalpak_ + Mongolian_QH_ + Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 3.889059
19 Azeri_Dagestan_ + Karakalpak_ + Maltese_ + Mongolian_QH_ @ 3.893891
20 Mongolian_QH_ + Sephardic_Jew_ + Stalskoe_Kumyk_ + Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 3.899750

PuntDNAL K13

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 23.70
2 NE_Asia 18.86
3 SW_Europe 18.83
4 Siberia 13.14
5 NE_Europe 11.73
6 SW_Asia 9.19
7 South_Asia 2.51
8 Americas 1.30


Finished reading population data. 191 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Nogay @ 12.706994
2 Afghan_Hazara @ 18.480757
3 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 18.988604
4 Turkish_Aydin @ 19.990814
5 Kumyk @ 23.460157
6 Balkar @ 23.755135
7 Turkish @ 24.586710
8 Turkish_Kayseri @ 25.003660
9 Tadjik @ 26.309090
10 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 27.634954
11 Ossetian @ 27.967743
12 Dagestan_Azeri @ 28.756804
13 Adygei @ 30.253296
14 Romani @ 30.298292
15 Greek_Central @ 31.711386
16 Ashkenazy_Jew @ 31.815454
17 Syrian @ 31.976501
18 Italian_Sicilian @ 32.224949
19 Chechen @ 32.530640
20 Sephardic_Jew @ 32.704384

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Afghan_Hazara +50% Turkish_Aydin @ 8.105392


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Turkish_Aydin +25% Turkish_Aydin +25% Xibo @ 3.508124


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Afghan_Hazara + Armenian + Daur + Kosovar @ 2.954447
2 Afghan_Uzbeki + Daur + Italian_Abruzzo + Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.956027
3 Afghan_Hazara + Armenian + Daur + Greek_Thessaly @ 2.980286
4 Afghan_Hazara + Assyrian + Daur + Kosovar @ 3.048175
5 Afghan_Hazara + Albanian + Armenian + Daur @ 3.059711
6 Afghan_Uzbeki + Daur + Italian_Sicilian + Turkish_Aydin @ 3.096108
7 Afghan_Uzbeki + Daur + Sephardic_Jew + Turkish_Aydin @ 3.108051
8 Afghan_Hazara + Assyrian + Daur + Greek_Thessaly @ 3.127683
9 Afghan_Hazara + Armenian + Daur + Italian_Tuscan @ 3.141243
10 Afghan_Uzbeki + Ashkenazy_Jew + Daur + Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.147617
11 Afghan_Uzbeki + Daur + Greek_Central + Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.155618
12 Afghan_Uzbeki + Ashkenazy_Jew + Daur + Turkish_Aydin @ 3.190758
13 Afghan_Uzbeki + Daur + Italian_Sicilian + Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.212199
14 Afghan_Hazara + Albanian + Assyrian + Daur @ 3.213196
15 Afghan_Uzbeki + Ashkenazy_Jew + Daur + Turkish @ 3.215280
16 Daur + Kumyk + Nogay + Sephardic_Jew @ 3.224767
17 Afghan_Uzbeki + Daur + Italian_Sicilian + Turkish @ 3.247027
18 Afghan_Hazara + Assyrian + Daur + Italian_Tuscan @ 3.256123
19 Afghan_Uzbeki + Balkar + Daur + Sephardic_Jew @ 3.289916
20 Balkar + Nogay + Sephardic_Jew + Xibo @ 3.313654

[Hudayar]

Very interesting results. Thank you for sharing. I have never seen half Central Asian results before.

[StonyArabia]

The result fits you being a mixture of Anatolian Turk and Central Asian Turk quite accurate results.

[Gangrel]

hosgeldin knk

[Hudayar]

By the way if you want to compare your autosomal DNA results with other Turks here i posted some of them

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Dmatch-results
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...stern-Anatolia
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...y-From-Antalya
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Anatolian-Turk

[Hudayar]

The result fits you being a mixture of Anatolian Turk and Central Asian Turk quite accurate results.

This guy surprisingly is close to Turkmens and Nogais, imo we can consider Ulash as what would a Turkish immigrant from Central Asia in 11th century genetically look like in GEDmatch calculators

[Böri]

You seem to plot in triangle between Turkmenians, Nogays and Uzbeks which is normal considering your Western Oghuz Turcoman and Eastern Kypchak-Nogay ancestry. Congrat.

[StonyArabia]

This guy surprisingly is close to Turkmens and Nogais, imo we can consider Ulash as what would a Turkish immigrant from Central Asia in 11th century genetically look like in GEDmatch calculators

The original Oghuz Turks were not full blown Mongoloid or Siberians as most people assume or believe. They already had significant influence from their "Caucasoid" neighbours. They were already Eurasian before even setting foot into Anatolia. If the Oghuz were full Siberians, than Anatolia would have looked quite Mongoloid influenced. It would be similar to what happened to Mexico, which has significant South European levels, which did alter the original Amerindian phenotype. The Anatolian phenotype was not altered drastically, by the incoming of Oghuz tribes, meaning they were not that Mongoloid to begin with, but were more Eurasian like.

[Hudayar]

The original Oghuz Turks were not full blown Mongoloid or Siberians as most people assume or believe. They already had significant influence from their "Caucasoid" neighbours. They were already Eurasian before even setting foot into Anatolia. If the Oghuz were full Siberians, than Anatolia would have looked quite Mongoloid influenced. It would be similar to what happened to Mexico, which has significant South European levels, which did alter the original Amerindian phenotype. The Anatolian phenotype was not altered drastically, by the incoming of Oghuz tribes, meaning they were not that Mongoloid to begin with, but were more Eurasian like.

Yes this is a fact
imo genetic ancestry of Turks is something like this

According to my hypothesis Turks descended from people who were Turkmen/Nogai like, around 20-40% mongoloid. Ancestors of Oghuzes were similar to modern day Kazakhs and Kyrgyzes, they were around 50-80% mongoloid. And their ancestors were similar to Mongolians.
Some Turks have "Kazakh/Kyrgyz" ancestry in Gedmatch calculators.
for example
19 Baku_WGA_ + Baku_WGA_ + Kazakh_ + Sicilian_Center_ @ 2.734671

1 50% Armenian +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Kazakh @ 5.009918

1 50% Armenian +25% Central_Greek +25% Kirgiz @ 3.642564

in other 2 pop approx they appear as
1 50% Armenian +50% Turkmen_Afghan @ 4.170694
1 50% Lebanese_Muslim +50% Nogay @ 6.231666
1 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Turkmen @ 6.514019

The Kazakh/Kyrgyz ancestry is around 20-30%. Since the Turks did not descend from any Kazakhs or Kyrgyzes, i think the Oghuzes themselves were a mix of Turkics who were similar to Kazakhs/Kyrgyzes and Iranians. Hence in some calculators Turks have results like this. This is one of the proofs that back my hypothesis. But we cannot be sure until we excavate Oghuz/Seljuk graves and extract their DNA.

[Turul Karom]

Congratulations on receiving and posting for us your results, my brother!

You have a very interesting genetic history, and are a clear son of Asena!

Best wishes from Hungary!