Iranian survivors of Turkic invasions in pre-Xinjiang

[ButlerKing]

Are these the last Iranian Indo-European survivors in Xinjiang who didn't become Turkified/Intermixed by Uyghurs invasions and conquest ?



History


Tashkurgan Town became the capital of the Sarikol kingdom (色勒库尔), a kingdom of the Pamir Mountains.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tashkurgan_Town#History

Their kingdom dates back at least 2000 years ago or even 200 BC while the Uyghurs only started migrating around 842 AD



They are known as the Sarikol Pamiri










Geography

Sarikol people only in China

[ButlerKing]

Here is the languages of Indigenous China. The blue colored parts of Xinjiang shows Indo-European which is Sarikol although the Chinese classify them as Tajiks they are actually unrelated with the Tajiks of Tajikistan. They've been living there thousands years ago before the Uyghurs have arrived in 8th century to Xinjiang.

[ButlerKing]

I'm surprised no one had responded to this this thread that deserves a least a limited amount of attention.



Another people in China are the Wakhi speakers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakhi_language

" Wakhi is one of several languages that belong to the areal Pamir language group. Its relationship to the other Iranian languages is not clear; in certain features Wakhi shows affinity to the extinct Saka language in particular."

[Böri]

The total number of Tajiks in China is less than 50k that's nothing. And they happened to become Chinese citizens after China gained some territories there. Iranians aren't part of the history of Xinjiang which Turkic and non-Indo-Iranian Tocharian.

[ButlerKing]

The total number of Tajiks in China is less than 50k that's nothing. And they happened to become Chinese citizens after China gained some territories there. Iranians aren't part of the history of Xinjiang which Turkic and non-Indo-Iranian Tocharian.

They are not Tajiks. They are classified as Tajiks but are different people. The Pamiri ethnic group themselves are only 350,000 around the world to begin with so about 12.5% of it's population reside in China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamiris

According to the paper by Li et al.:

... the western East Asians are more closely related to Uyghurs than the eastern East Asians. ... STRUCTURE cannot distinguish recent admixture from a cline of other origin, and these analyses cannot prove admixture in the Uyghurs; however, historical records indicate that the present Uyghurs were formed by admixture between Tocharians from the west and Orkhon Uyghurs (Wugusi-Huihu, according to present Chinese pronunciation) from the east in the 8th century AD. The Uyghur Empire was originally located in Mongolia and conquered the Tocharian tribes in Xinjiang. Tocharians such as Kroran have been shown by archaeological findings to appear phenotypically similar to northern and central Europeans, whereas the Orkhon Uyghur people were clearly Mongolians. The two groups of people subsequently mixed in Xinjiang to become one population, the present Uyghurs. We do not know the genetic constitution of the Tocharians, but if they were similar to western Siberians, such as the Khanty, admixture would already be biased toward similarity with East Asian populations.


UYGHURS = mixture of Turkic Uyghurs invaders and Iranian Tocharian

Ancient Uyghurs looked like this

[Böri]

Tocharians were not Iranic, they were separate branch like Slavs or Anatolians were.

[ButlerKing]

Tocharians were not Iranic, they were separate branch like Slavs or Anatolians were.

They can only be Iranic because all pre-Turkic Central Asians were considered Iranic people because they all shared a common Indo-European language.

[Böri]

They can only be Iranic because all pre-Turkic Central Asians were considered Iranic people because they all shared a common Indo-European language.

Considered by who?
There are Tocharian language samples and it's clearly non-Indo-Iranian.

[ButlerKing]

Considered by who?
There are Tocharian language samples and it's clearly non-Indo-Iranian.

Just because someone made a youtube a video about it doesn't make it fact. Tocharian A and B are significantly different, to the point of being mutually unintelligible. A common Proto-Tocharian language must precede the attested languages by several centuries, probably dating to the late 1st millennium BC.[22]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocharian_languages classified Indo-European

Also many of the Southern Xinjiang Uyghurs still resembles modern day Pamiri despite being mixed with Mongoloid in DNA, they even live next to them which clearly shows their geographic connections.



They look totally different from the Northern Uyghurs who look more Kazakhs, Uzbeks and it males since Northern parts borders with Kazakhstan and southern parts borders with Tajikistan

[Marmara]

Just because someone made a youtube a video about it doesn't make it fact. Tocharian A and B are significantly different, to the point of being mutually unintelligible. A common Proto-Tocharian language must precede the attested languages by several centuries, probably dating to the late 1st millennium BC.[22]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocharian_languages classified Indo-European

He didn't say Tocharian is not indo-european, he said it's not indo-iranian which is true. Tocharians were IE but not Iranic.