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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel von Rethelsky View Post
    ??? Duka is a surname of an Albanian family. What seems to be the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CabOOM View Post
    Of-course post man. This is like historical gold. I have some Duka in my line.
    I need to find the Duka information. A woman sent it to me when she found my matches with the Polocoser. Got to check my FB messages when I get home. It was over a year ago.


    http://www.ocnal.com/2016/09/vasil-k...who-ruled.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasile_Lupu

    I wonder if Lupus line has any living descendants. Any Moldovans can chime in? If there are any living descendant of Lupu, I would very much like to test them to confirm if we are one and the same Koci.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Likely, but uncertain. Time will tell. If NGS really becomes 100 dollars, that will make some huge strides. I know I would start testing more family lol.
    How much does it cost to do the full dna sequence bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Illyrian Warrior View Post
    How much does it cost to do the full dna sequence bro?
    I did fullgenomes which was 700(divided into 3 payments). It is definitely way too pricey. At the time I got my tax returns so I said fuck it lol. But, if it really gets as cheap as 100, that would be amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post
    Excuse me, you are talking here about the surname Cami or Çami?
    The ones who have intermarried with my mothers family actually spell it as Cani, they are from Borove
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojet View Post
    I'm matching a Cami at 23andMe who is tested J2b2, who by all accounts should indeed be from the Dibra area. I have suggested he tests at FTDNA, but as usual, no response.

    So if someone can find a Cami to test, I'm willing to pay for their FTDNA/YSEQ test
    I will try and ask my uncles wife about it but that would be when I go to Albania, and I think she doesn't have any brothers but her father is still alive so I will try and persuade
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CabOOM View Post
    Definitely! Completely forgot about Dukagjini. People form Dukagjini don't keep Duka last names, as far as I know. They do have Duka surnames in the south.

    Good news is with genetics we will know with relative certainty in the near future.
    The Dukagjini family themselves do have Dukagjini as a surname, the tribes of Dukagjin though don't
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I will try and ask my uncles wife about it but that would be when I go to Albania, and I think she doesn't have any brothers but her father is still alive so I will try and persuade
    In that case you should probably get a few sample kits from YSEQ: https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=225

    And if you manage to get such a sample, I will pay for his actual test

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    There are no Koci left in Epirus. They went to Western Macedonia, per records. Also L1029 is more common in Epirus and northern Greek R1a where Baiounitai settled. Around Janina specifically(oddly enough this is where they were from too). As for the Duka, we are intermarried with some. There was also a Doukas that ruled in Moldova, after Vasil Kocis son lost power. Doukas married Vasil Lupu Koci's daughter. The same Doukas was supposedly from either Epirus or Macedonia. Maybe thats a connection for Duka?
    The surname Koçi you can find in whole Albania. For example there is one from Fier from the villages of Libofsha Ervin Koçi. He is Orthodox, myzeqar. But you can find Koçi in Shkodra, the two sisters Greta and Eni Koçi. In Vlora there is the Pass of Koçiut, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    ??? Duka is a surname of an Albanian family. What seems to be the problem?
    That he has some kind of Duka wannabeism.

    Either somebody is Duka, or is not.

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