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**~~Laberia~~** · 01-12-2018, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by CabOOM

That is a really interesting story. I would really like to read more about it.

Duka I think is also a title. As in Duke. I know however that there is a region of Dukati in Laberia. Some people from this area have surnames Duka. However, this can easily be random convergence. The region of Dukati simply means, Land of Dukes, in a way.

Even with Duka is the same. There is the village of Dukat in Vlora, Dukas in Patos, Fier, etc. As a surname you can find again in all Albania. You can find in South, in Labëria but also in Central Albania and in North, Armando Duka, Agron Duka, from Shijak, etc.

**~~Laberia~~** · 01-12-2018, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

The ones who have intermarried with my mothers family actually spell it as Cani, they are from Borove

In Peshkopi(Dibër) there are people with Cami and Cani surname, Tefta Cami, Shkëlqim Cani. Meanwhile the surname Çami i think is related to Çamëria Region, but not only. For example, Foto Çami. I don`t know about Çami in North.
I think that from the Northern tribes, it is said that Kabashi are originary from Çamëria Region.

**Trojet** · 01-12-2018, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Laberia

Even with Duka is the same. There is the village of Dukat in Vlora, Dukas in Patos, Fier, etc. As a surname you can find again in all Albania. You can find in South, in Labëria but also in Central Albania and in North, Armando Duka, Agron Duka, from Shijak, etc.

In a study of Aromanians, Dukas in Patos, Fier, has recorded the highest J2b2 percentage, at ~48%. All the haplotypes seemed to be related though, but with somewhat distinct markers such as DYS388=17 instead of the modal 15. I would be very interested to test one of them deeper at FTDNA or YSEQ.

**~~The Illyrian Warrior~~** · 01-12-2018, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Trojet

In a study of Aromanians, Dukas in Patos, Fier, has recorded the highest J2b2 percentage, at ~48%. All the haplotypes seemed to be related though, but with somewhat distinct markers such as DYS388=17 instead of the modal 15. I would be very interested to test one of them deeper at FTDNA or YSEQ.

They are Gheg paternally conditionally say, I thought they have more diverse hgs and greater amount of exotic/non Albanian markers like I2a-Din and R1a.

**Trojet** · 01-12-2018, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Illyrian Warrior

They are Gheg paternally conditionally say, I thought they have more diverse hgs and greater amount of exotic/non Albanian markers like I2a-Din and R1a.

Possibly. Their J2b2 doesn't seem to be close to any Ghegs we have so far though. Their STRs suggest they could be under J-Y20899,PH2967, which is the most common J2b2 subclade under Ghegs, these SNPs start forming 4300 ybp though, and that's why deeper testing would be very useful: https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y20899/

This is only for Aromanians from Dukas, Fier. As you can see on the following under Genetics section, their J is 48.7%. Per STR analysis all of it is J2b2, and they seem to be close to each other: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromanians

They obviously have some E1b1b, R1a, and a considerable amount of "I". Haven't looked into how much of it is I2a-Din though.