Avar phenotype?

[Grab the Gauge]

But it is necessary to discover what was the nature of the European racial element amalgamated by the Avars. This may be accomplished by studying some of the least Mongoloid cemeteries. In that of Jutas 14 (see Appendix I, col. 52), only five out of twenty four skulls show any trace of recognizable Mongoloid features. The Jutas sample, then, may be used for testing. Fourteen male skulls are all below 78 in cranial index, and are very similar to one of the Minussinsk regional sub-series; less pronounced relationships are present between it and Scythian and Armenian Iron Age skulls. The resemblance to Slavic and Germanic skulls, which are larger, is less pronounced. It is therefore certain that these non-Mongoloid Avars belonged to the general Mediterranean racial family, and that some, at least, were members of the Nordic Iron Age group; it is more than likely that they were for the most part incorporated into the Avar ranks in central Asia before corning to Europe. The study of the crania from another cemetery, that of Tiszadersz 15 (see Appendix I, col. 53), makes this virtually certain.

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turk...dHistoryEn.htm

[Grab the Gauge]

If they were Turanic asians they looked like Cumans mostly probably, but Slavs and Avars lived in the symbiosis under the Avar khagante... So maybe some of them mixed there.

What phenotypes were they then, Turanid?

It isn't necessary. Maybe they could be easily Caspid? Or Aralid?

And later, surely most of them get Pontid, or even Dinarid European admixture...

Cumans were Nordic.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumans

In East Slavic languages and Polish, they are known as the Polovtsy, derived from the Slavic root *polvъ "pale; light yellow; blonde".[24][25]:43 Polovtsy or Polovec is often said to be derived from the Old East Slavic polovŭ (половъ) "yellow; pale" by the Russians – all meaning "blond".[25] The old Ukrainian word polovtsy (Пóловці), derived from polovo "straw" – means "blond, pale yellow". The western Cumans, or Polovtsy, were also called Sorochinetses by the Rus', – apparently derived from the Turkic sary chechle "yellow-haired". A similar etymology may have been at work in the name of the Sary people, who also migrated westward ahead of the Qun.[26][full citation needed] However, according to O. Suleymenov polovtsy may come from a Slavic word for "blue-eyed", i.e. the Serbo-Croatian plȃv (пла̑в) means "blue",[27] but this word also means "fair, blonde" and is in fact a cognate of the above; cf. Eastern Slavic polovŭ, Russian polóvyj (поло́вый), Ukrainian polovýj (полови́й).[28] An alternative etymology of Polovtsy is also possible: the Slavic root *pȍlje "field" (cf. Russian póle), which would therefore imply that Polovtsy were "men of the field" or "men of the steppe".

The Cumans were reported to be handsome people with blond hair, fair skin and blue eyes,[13]:36[32] and desirable women.[92]:32, 52[93] Cuman women had a high reputation for their beauty amongst the Russian aristocracy.[12]:19

Most Turks were originally Nordic as well.

McGovern has discovered a number of Chinese references to the Hiung-Nu and other Turkish speaking "barbarians" which describe them as hairy, big-nosed, and partially blond. In later times, Genghis Khan was supposed to be red-haired and green-eyed.

[blogen]

István Erdélyi

Do not lie Turk!

"akiknek népnevét (Avar) egyesek a kaukázusi avarok (saját nevükön maarulal) nevében vélik felfedezni, jóllehet népi kapcsolatról nem lehet ebben az esetben szó"
"Their name may originate from the Avar ethnonym according to some Caucasian Avars, but the ethnic contact is impossible."
forrás: Erdélyi István: Magyarok Dagesztán földjén - Советская литература, 1981

[Nanushka]

Do not lie Turk!

"akiknek népnevét (Avar) egyesek a kaukázusi avarok (saját nevükön maarulal) nevében vélik felfedezni, jóllehet népi kapcsolatról nem lehet ebben az esetben szó"
"Their name may originate from the Avar ethnonym according to some Caucasian Avars, but the ethnic contact is impossible."
forrás: Erdélyi István: Magyarok Dagesztán földjén - Советская литература, 1981

I am not lying, I didnt say that he claims what I say, the academic article enclosed (in turkish) says that he writes Avars stopped in northern Dagestan and became allies with Sarir Khanate there and politically dominated them. This shows some of them stayed there as well and went on ruling the people

If you read what I write carefully you will see I only said check out his works! He may claim the contrary but apparently some of his words provide some clues to what I say. In academia you also look for the words that may help you with your research, that is how it works

Avars and Sarir.JPG

[blogen]

I am not lying

You lie about Erdély István. The Turkic science is nothing more than baseless claims, lunatic dreams and pure stupidity with serious lies.

[Nanushka]

You lie about Erdély István.

You are ridicolous, why would I lie about him? I wrote my reasons for referring to him but if you dont wanna listen (typically) its your choice. Ok, take him off the list and there will remain many researchers saying the same truth about Avars

The Turkic science is nothing more than baseless claims, lunatic dreams and pure stupidity with serious lies.

Well, mostly I take the european science this way

[Vlatko Vukovic]

There is literally nothing Nordic about that guy, you people are the most retarded human beings alive. You have no idea how to classify anything. Not a single example of anything resembling an Avar has been posted here.

Guy is Nordic as f*ck. Look again and then stop speaking nonsenses. What is he then? Mediterrean maybe hahahah, with yellow hair as f*ck ?

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Cumans were Nordic.

The Cumans were reported to be handsome people with blond hair, fair skin and blue eyes,[13]:36[32] and desirable women.[92]:32, 52[93] Cuman women had a high reputation for their beauty amongst the Russian aristocracy.[12]:19

And you really believe in everything what is written hahaha

McGovern has discovered a number of Chinese references to the Hiung-Nu and other Turkish speaking "barbarians" which describe them as hairy, big-nosed, and partially blond. In later times, Genghis Khan was supposed to be red-haired and green-eyed.

So what? His skull probably was clear brachycephalic narrow eyed - mongoloid. Colour of hair or colour of eyes can't change the objectivity.

[Grab the Gauge]

If they were Turanic asians they looked like Cumans mostly probably, but Slavs and Avars lived in the symbiosis under the Avar khagante... So maybe some of them mixed there.

What phenotypes were they then, Turanid?

Guy is Nordic as f*ck. Look again and then stop speaking nonsenses. What is he then? Mediterrean maybe hahahah, with yellow hair as f*ck ?

God you are fucking retard, that ugly cunt is not Nordic. He is East Baltic. Remember when we went through this before? This is Nordic you ignorant fucking plough driver:

[Grab the Gauge]

And you really believe in everything what is written hahaha



So what? His skull probably was clear brachycephalic narrow eyed - mongoloid. Colour of hair or colour of eyes can't change the objectivity.

The DNA of the royal family of Genghis Khan's era and area confirms they were descended from Nordics as their family story implied.


http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0161622

Which further goes to show how worthless these "Mongoloid" classifications of skulls are, since one can be Mongoloid and have Nordic ancestors. Most anthropologists can't accurately classify shit.




This Scottish man from the Isle of Lewis would have his skull from the grave classified as "Tungid" by retarded central European anthropologists:





In reality these are Indo-European features shared with (not a coincidence) Mongols.

Temujin (AD 1167-1227), better known by his title Genghis Khan (Universal Ruler), was a man of strongly Nordish racial ancestry. According to the Persian historian Ab ul Ghasi, the tribal clan to which Temujin belonged, were known as the Bourchikoun (Grey-Eyed Men). [Günther (1934) 185; Lamb (1928) 22.] The ancestral mother and founder of this clan was known as Alan goa (beautiful Alan). According to the Mongol and Chinese legends on the subject, she was said to have been visited in her tent by a divine being, who possessed golden hair, a fair complexion and grey eyes. Shortly after this visitation, she gave birth to the first member of the Bourchikoun clan. [Günther (1934) 184.]

Temujin himself was noted in Chinese descriptions of him, for his tall stature and heavy beard. [Günther (1934) 185.] We should also note the following depiction of Temujin's appearance, as given by Harold Lamb, in his biography of the great Khan:

"He must have been tall, with high shoulders, his skin a whitish tan. His eyes, set far apart under a sloping forehead, did not slant. And his eyes were green, or blue-grey in the iris, with black pupils. Long reddish-brown hair fell in braids to his back." [Lamb (1928) 23.]

Ab ul Ghasi also observed that the family of Yesugai, the father of Temujin, were known for the fact that their children often had fair complexions, and blue or grey eyes. [Günther (1934) 185.] Temujin's wife, Bourtai, bore a name which means "Grey-Eyed". [Lamb (1928) 23.] As both Günther (1934) and Lamb (1928) note, Temujin's relatives and descendants also possessed fair features: Temujin's son and successor Ogadei (1229-41), had gray eyes and red hair; Temujin's grandson Mangu (1251-9), had reddish eyebrows and a red-brown beard; Subatei, who conquered China, had a long, reddish beard. Indeed, it was said that people were surprised Kubilai Khan had dark hair and eyes, because most of Genghis Khan's descendants had reddish hair and blue eyes. [Günther (1934) 185.