Whiteness and admixtures defined

[renaissance12]

So you are basically saying: Finns are not white, Sardinians and Sicilians are white. Scandinavians, Northern Europeans - nah also kinda not white. And you are saying white=caucasian, which means Georgians and Abkhazians are whiter than Brits or Germans, right? To me "caucasian" is the single most stupid term in the history of anthropology. It was coined long before we learnt there were mulitple prehistoric and ancient migrations to Europe.

Yes... like it or not...

Northerns means Scandinavia Baltic area.. .. They are not European to me..


You can keep take care of the skin color..

here is a suggestion..

[Alvorada Potente]

If someone looks white to me, that person is white. Purity is genetics, and genetics can be tricky sometimes.

I've seen Europeans who score 100% European and look Middle Eastern and a Brazilian guy who scored 85% European and looked German.

It's possible for you to inherit Native American DNA but not a single trait.

Agreed, its normal.

[Jana]

Finns have far more autochtonuous European ancestry than southern Europeans, genetically speaking. But they also have more exotic non European ancestry (up to 10% Siberian) than southern Europeans do.
Neolithic European/Anatolian ancestry (as in Sardinians) can be considered fully European, and peaks in Europe. Middle easterners have different neolithic ancestry, more related to neolithic Iran.

Recent non European admixture in southern Europe is small and quite insignificant compared to Finnish Siberian admix, which is also quite ancient. On the other hand there is recent non European admix in eastern Europeans, but it is also quite small.

[Jana]

Yes... like it or not...

Northerns means Scandinavia Baltic area.. .. They are not European to me..

Baltic people are most European genetically, weather you like it or not.

[Cristiano viejo]

What happened to Armenia?

Long live Armenia.

[renaissance12]

Baltic people are most European genetically, weather you like it or not.

All the people who had never been under the thumb of the romans in Europe ( continent ).. or living close the border of the roman empire.. -that means baltic and far east people - .. are not EUROPEANS... This is the history.. these are facts..

[Jana]

All the people who had never been under the thumb of the romans in Europe ( continent ).. or living close the border of the roman empire.. -that means baltic and far east people - .. are not EUROPEANS... This is the history.. these are facts..

Nope. Roman Empire was mediterranean Empire, not European empire.

Europe as modern meaning was coined with Charlemagne and Franks.

[renaissance12]

Nope. Roman Empire was mediterranean Empire, not European empire.

Europe as modern meaning was coined with Charlemagne and Franks.

I think that your historical knowledge is very superficial..The Roman Empire remains the paragon of imperial power and authority – that’s why so many states kept insisting that they are their heirs or making connections to them, including the Germanic Charles the Great and many Germans KAISER to follow ( Nazi included ) . In a way, these countries preferred to prove a connection to their Southern heritage than to their Northern roots, to the point that they even attempted to fabricate connections to it, such as the Holy Roman Empire. Others went so far as to reject the beginnings of northern European history (or at least, the history of western/northern/central European states) as a "middle-age".

90 percent of what we see now in Europe was born and developed from the Roman Empire and Italian Renaissance..


Trier in Germany was for a while the capital of the Roman Empire..

Constantine the great was elected Emperor in York North England...

List of Roman towns in England

◦Aquae Sulis => Bath
◦Bannaventa => Norton (village), Northamptonshire
◦Calleva Atrebatum => Silchester (village), Hampshire
◦Camulodunum (or Colonia Claudia Victricensis) => Colchester*
◦Causennae => Ancaster (village), Lincolnshire
◦Corinium => Cirencester
◦Corstopitum (or Coria) => Corbridge
◦Deva (or Deva Victrix) => Chester
◦Dubris => Dover
◦Durnovaria => Dorchester
◦Durobrivae => Water Newton (village), Cambridgeshire
◦Durolipons => Cambridge
◦Durovernon => Canterbury
◦Eboracum => York
◦Glevum => Gloucester
◦Isca Dumnoniorum => Exeter
◦Isurium Brigantum => Aldborough (village), North Yorkshire
◦Lactodorum => Towcester (village), Northamptonshire
◦Letocetum => Wall (village), Staffordshire
◦Lindum => Lincoln
◦Lindinis => Ilchester (village), Somerset
◦Londinium => London
◦Manduessedum => Mancetter (village), Warwickshire
◦Mediolanum => Whitchurch (village), Shropshire
◦Noviomagus Reginorum => Chichester
◦Ratae Coritanorum => Leicester
◦Tripontium => Newton and Biggin (village), Warwickshire
◦Venta Belgarum => Winchester
◦Venta Icenorum => Caistor St Edmund (village), Norfolk
◦Verulamium => near St Albans
◦Viroconium Cornoviorum => Wroxeter (village), Shropshire

List of Roman towns in Germany

◦Aquae Mattiacae => Wiesbaden
◦Aquisgranium => Aachen
◦Augusta Treverorum => Trier
◦Augusta Vindelicorum => Augsburg
◦Aurelia Aquensi => Baden Baden
◦Bonna => Bonn
◦Castellum apud Confluentes => Koblenz
◦Castra Batavorum => Passau
◦Castra Vetera => Xanten, North Rhine-Westphalia
◦Colonia Ulpia Traiana => Xanten, North Rhine-Westphalia
◦Drusus => Bingen-am-Rhein, Rhineland-Palatinate
◦Mattium => Marburg, Hesse
◦Moguntiacum => Mainz
◦Novaesium => Neuss, North Rhine-Westphalia
◦Noviomagus => Neumagen-Dhron (village), Rhineland-Palatinate
◦Oppidum Ubiorum (then Colonia Claudia Ara Agrippinensium) => Cologne/Köln
◦Radasbona (then Castra Regina) => Regensburg
◦Rigomagus => Remagen, Rhineland-Palatinate
◦Sorviodurum => Straubing, Bavaria
◦Tolbiacum => Zuelpich, North Rhine-Westphalia
◦Tricensimae => Xanten, North Rhine-Westphalia
◦Vadum Francorum = Frankfurt

List of Roman towns in France

◦Aginnum => Agen, Lot-et-Garonne
◦Aquae Sextiae => Aix-en-Provence
◦Alalia => Aleria, Corse
◦Arausio => Orange
◦Arelate (previously Theline) => Arles
◦Argentoratum (then Stratoeburgus) => Strasbourg
◦Augusta Suessionum => Soissons, Picardie
◦Augusta Viromanduorum => Saint-Quentin, Picardie
◦Augustodunum (formerly Bibracte) => Autun, Bourgogne
◦Augustodurum => Bayeux, Normandie
◦Augustomagus => Senlis, Picardie
◦Augustonemetum (previously Nemossos) => Clermont-Ferrand
◦Augustoritum => Limoges
◦Autricum => Chartres
◦Avaricum => Bourges, Cher
◦Avenio => Avignon
◦Bagacum => Bavay (village), Nord
◦Besontio => Besançon, Franche-Comté
◦Burdigala => Bordeaux
◦Caesarodunum => Tours
◦Caesaromagus => Beauvais, Picardie
◦Camaracum => Cambrai, Nord
◦Caranusca => Hackenberg (village), Lorraine
◦Carcaso => Carcassonne
◦Cenabum (then Aurelianis) => Orléans
◦Colonia Forum Segusiavorum => Feurs, Loire
◦Colonia Nemausa => Nîmes
◦Condate Riedonum => Rennes
◦Condatomagus => La Graufesenque, Aveyron
◦Darioritum => Vannes, Bretagne
◦Decem Pagi => Tarquimpol (village), Lorraine
◦Divio => Dijon
◦Divodurum => Metz
◦Duacum => Douai
◦Durocortorum Remorum => Reims
◦Gesoriacum (or Portus Itius) => Boulogne-sur-Mer
◦Juliomagus => Angers
◦Lemonum (or Limonum) => Poitiers
◦Lucus Augusti => Luc-en-Diois, Drôme
◦Lusonum => Lezoux, Puy-de-Dôme
◦Lutetia => Paris
◦Massilia (previously Massalia) => Marseille
◦Mediolanum Aulercorum => Evreux
◦Mediolanum Santonum => Saintes, Charente-Maritime
◦Narbo Martius => Narbonne
◦Nemetacum Atrebatum => Arras
◦Nicaea (previously Nikaia) => Nice
◦Noviodunum => Soissons
◦Pons Saravi => Sarrebourg (village), Lorraine
◦Portus Namnetus => Nantes
◦Reginca => Saint-Servan (village), Bretagne
◦Ricciacum => Ritzing (village), Lorraine
◦Rotomagus => Rouen
◦Samarobriva => Amiens
◦Tolosa => Toulouse
◦Tullum Leucorum => Toul, Lorraine
◦Tres Tabernae => Saverne (village), Alsace
◦Valentia => Valence
◦Valentianae => Valenciennes
◦Vasio Vocontiorum => Vaison-la-Romaine
◦Verodunum => Verdun
◦Vesuna => Périgueux, Dordogne
◦Vindinium => Le Mans
◦Vorgium => Carhaix (village), Bretagne

In Switzerland

◦Arbor Felix => Arbon, Thurgau
◦Aventicum => Avenches (village), Vaud
◦Augusta Raurica => Kaiseraugst (village), Aargau
◦Basilea => Basel
◦Curia => Chur, Graubünden
◦Genava => Genève/Geneva
◦Lousanna => Lausanne
◦Octodurum => Martigny, Valais
◦Salodurum => Solothurn
◦Tenedo => Bad Zurzach (village), Aargau
◦Turicum => Zürich
◦Vindonissa => Windisch (village), Aargau

In Austria

◦Aelium Cetium (then Treisma) => Sankt Pölten
◦Brigantium (formerly Brigantion) => Bregenz
◦Carnuntum => Deutsch-Altenburg - Petronell
◦Iuenna => Jaunstein
◦Juvavum (or Salisburgium or Iuvavia) => Salzburg
◦Lentie (formerly Lentos) => Linz
◦Noreia => Neumarkt in der Steiermark
◦Oenipons => Innsbruck
◦Ovilava => Wels
◦Veldidena => Wilten
◦Vindobona => Vienna/Wien
◦Virunum => Maria Saal


In Holland ( its ground surface was only 30% of the current ground surface )

◦Albaniana => Alphen aan den Rijn
◦Coriovallum => Heerlen
◦Lugdunum Batavorum => Katwijk (Leiden)
◦Mosa Trajectum (or Trajectum ad Mosam) => Maastricht*
◦Oppidum Batavorum (or Ulpia Noviomagus Batavorum) => Nijmegen*
◦Trajectum ad Rhenum => Utrecht


I don't add the list of Others Country


Forget the Vikings.. their contribution to Europe led to nothing as their discovery of North-america ..


US Senate Ancient Rome symbols

Eagle... Ancient Roman fasces lictoriae ("bundles of the lictors") symbolised..



George Washington original statue ( Canova Veneto Italy ) The US Senate and Thomas Jefferson specifically requested to represent George as a Roman emperor.... not a Viking...




Many Others US president were deeply Romanophili..

[sean]

White = European ancestry. That means no Negroid or Mongoloid admixture. However, there is a distinct difference between being a white person who carries the light eye/hair genes and being a non-brown person who looks similar to the former albeit with darker features.

[Septentrion]

How much negroid, Mongoloid, Amerindian or South Asian/ASI admixture can a person have and still be considered white. What is the percentage of Caucasoid ancestry needed to be considered white? I don't have an answer to it, but I definetly don't think purity exists or is relevant. Someone with very small admixture of any kind is definetly white.

Purity exist (100% European = 100% White). However if Negroid, Mongoloid, Amerindian, Indid, Australoid, Polynesid admixtures are 10% or under, then one is still be considered White.