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    Early Bronzeage Yamnaya had 5% South Asian topkek;

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 61.9
    2 West_Asia 26.03
    3 South_Asia 5.28
    4 Americas 4.56
    5 SW_Europe 2.23

    Compare to me and Iran_CHL:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    Me:

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Asia 45.62
    2 SW_Europe 21.19
    3 SW_Asia 15.51
    4 NE_Europe 6.86
    5 South_Asia 6.07
    6 NE_Asia 1.6
    7 East_Africa 0.93
    8 Americas 0.93
    9 Siberia 0.56
    10 South_Africa 0.55
    11 West_Africa 0.2

    Iran_CHL which I most likely descend from;

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Asia 60.43
    2 SW_Asia 14.44
    3 SW_Europe 13.32
    4 South_Asia 9.75
    5 South_Africa 0.76
    6 Oceania 0.44
    7 East_Africa 0.35
    8 Americas 0.27
    9 SE_Asia 0.23

    We still don't know where South Asian comes from, but its a component that was present in ancient CHG, possibly ANE as well.

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    It's related to IEs and other steppe invaders. You can find South Asian admixture among them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Early Bronzeage Yamnaya had 5% South Asian topkek;

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 61.9
    2 West_Asia 26.03
    3 South_Asia 5.28
    4 Americas 4.56
    5 SW_Europe 2.23

    Compare to me and Iran_CHL:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    Me:

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Asia 45.62
    2 SW_Europe 21.19
    3 SW_Asia 15.51
    4 NE_Europe 6.86
    5 South_Asia 6.07
    6 NE_Asia 1.6
    7 East_Africa 0.93
    8 Americas 0.93
    9 Siberia 0.56
    10 South_Africa 0.55
    11 West_Africa 0.2

    Iran_CHL which I most likely descend from;

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Asia 60.43
    2 SW_Asia 14.44
    3 SW_Europe 13.32
    4 South_Asia 9.75
    5 South_Africa 0.76
    6 Oceania 0.44
    7 East_Africa 0.35
    8 Americas 0.27
    9 SE_Asia 0.23

    We still don't know where South Asian comes from, but its a component that was present in ancient CHG, possibly ANE as well.
    Wow. The first results of the ancient PIE seem to be a mixture between Baltic/Finnish and West Asian. I though they had been predominately eastern European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCree900 View Post
    Wow. The first results of the ancient PIE seem to be a mixture between Baltic/Finnish and West Asian. I though they had been predominately eastern European.
    They are still dominantly Eastern European, at least in modern terms, the difference is that they just have elevated West Asian admixture and no Anatolian farmer admixture, otherwise they were still similar to modern Eastern Europeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Nope, because he has no MENA either Balkan to make it Gypsy. It's from his north Caucasian or Ugric admix, all caucasians score south asian and so do many Finns.
    Yeah, it makes sense actually. Quite ironic when you think that the rest of Europe considers Romanians to be gypsies when we have one of the smallest ammount of South Asian admixture in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grishnack View Post
    Yeah, it makes sense actually. Quite ironic when you think that the rest of Europe considers Romanians to be gypsies when we have one of the smallest ammount of South Asian admixture in Europe.
    I think it's because of name (Romania - Roma). In Croatia many less educated people think Romania is ancient homeland of gypsies

    As you know, we have absolutely no reason to hate Romania. But these stereotype comes from elswhere. So far biggest south asian score I seen that isn't Gypsy were one Finn, one Tatar and one Irishman quite interestingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I think it's because of name (Romania - Roma). In Croatia many less educated people think Romania is ancient homeland of gypsies

    As you know, we have absolutely no reason to hate Romania. But these stereotype comes from elswhere. So far biggest south asian score I seen that isn't Gypsy were one Finn, one Tatar and one Irishman quite interestingly.
    The Irish probably got it from British colonial rule in India. Tatars they got from probably an Iranic type people. No idea about the Finn but most likely an assimilated Finnish Kale somewhere in his lineage, Kale being Gypsies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grishnack View Post
    Yeah, it makes sense actually. Quite ironic when you think that the rest of Europe considers Romanians to be gypsies when we have one of the smallest ammount of South Asian admixture in Europe.
    How many partial Gypsies are there in Romania? Like 1/4 or 1/8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBedouin View Post
    The Irish probably got it from British colonial rule in India. Tatars they got from probably an Iranic type people. No idea about the Finn but most likely an assimilated Finnish Kale somewhere in his lineage, Kale being Gypsies.
    Iranic Steppe people had low amounts of South Asian, the highest I've seen was 5% in a Scythian samples, the others had less, around 2% or so.

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