What is this guy saying?

[The Illyrian Warrior]

You said it yourself, marriages in medieval times were to secure alliance. Skanderbeg married his son and sister to Serbs, and that clearly shows he had good relation with us, also the two other things i mentioned that you just simply ignore. I dont understand what is here hard to comprehend.

Lol, you persistence on marriages is becoming hilarious.

Why you have hard time to swallow the basic fact that your ruler Brankovic did betray him so as sign of this betrayal act he didn't gave a flying shit but set fire to serb villages (not an act of kinship or because he felt close with your nation, quite contrary to your belief), he was a smart politicians not solely a great fighter, he may not be your biggest enemy (ottomans were) but certainly he was not your best ally either, he simply followed the steps which benefited him and his nation - Albanians, pure and simple.

[Morlak]

Miljanov does have Albanian origin paternally as well since he is Kuqi which are basically proven to be Albanian in origin by genetics and that there are still Albanian Kuqi members

Origins of Kuči are quite complicated, its clear that they have some Albanian element. But that is not one sided, same could be said about Kosovo tribe of Krasniqi, name is slavic and there are couple of Serbian familes who once belonged to this tribe. Montnegrin Serbs are similar to some extent with Gheg/Malesor Albanians, and there was quite a lot of mixing in the past. And realtions where generally good especially with Christians.

I am not going to repeat myself again about Skanderbeg, in my opinion claims i have made are good and valid.

[Kelmendasi]

Origins of Kuči are quite complicated, its clear that they have some Albanian element. But that is not one sided, same could be said about Kosovo tribe of Krasniqi, name is slavic and there are couple of Serbian familes who once belonged to this tribe. Montnegrin Serbs are similar to some extent with Gheg/Malesor Albanians, and there was quite a lot of mixing in the past. And realtions where generally good especially with Christians.

I am not going to repeat myself again about Skanderbeg, in my opinion claims i have made are good and valid.

Kuqi does have an Albanian origin from Berisha e Kuqe and this is claimed orally and is now proven genetically as even the "Slavic" Kuci members belong to the same Ydna haplogroup as Albanian Berisha e Kuqe(Kuqi) members. Krasniqi traditionally derives from Hoti and both are Albanian clans with no Slavic origin, genetically Krasniqi belongs to J2b2-PH1751 and E-V13 whilst Hoti belongs to it's own specific J2b2 clade, also Krasniqi isn't a "Kosovo" clan; it originates in northern Albania and is found in great numbers there specifically places like Tropoje. A lot of the Brda clans claim some sort of Albanian origin for example the Vasojevici is one of them as they claim to also descend from Hoti but this is most likely false since the Vasojevici belong to a unique clade of E-V13

[Morlak]

Kuqi does have an Albanian origin from Berisha e Kuqe and this is claimed orally and is now proven genetically as even the "Slavic" Kuci members belong to the same Ydna haplogroup as Albanian Berisha e Kuqe(Kuqi) members. Krasniqi traditionally derives from Hoti and both are Albanian clans with no Slavic origin, genetically Krasniqi belongs to J2b2-PH1751 and E-V13 whilst Hoti belongs to it's own specific J2b2 clade, also Krasniqi isn't a "Kosovo" clan; it originates in northern Albania and is found in great numbers there specifically places like Tropoje. A lot of the Brda clans claim some sort of Albanian origin for example the Vasojevici is one of them as they claim to also descend from Hoti but this is most likely false since the Vasojevici belong to a unique clade of E-V13

No. First known ancestors of Kuči is Nenad(Serbian name) he is mentioned in the documents of Skadar Sanjak in early 1400s. By Kuči legends they claim that he comes from Mrnjančević noble family, and one of oldest families from Kuči has surname Mranjvčić. The guy you are talking about is Drekale, and his origin is not certain. As i am familiar only Edith Durham(very pro-Albanian) claims him to descend from Berisha, however there are other stories about his origin. One being that his mother is again from Mranjančević family and father from Klimenti. Recently i heard some people claim Drekale descend from Skanderbeg's son Ivan. Also very important fact is that Serbian Kuči are separated in two groups, so called Old Kuči, who claim ancestry from Mrnjančević family, and Drekalovići(new Kuči) who claim ancestry from Drekale, so they are not a homogeneous tribe. Also both Kuči and Krasniqi(before islamization) celebrate Slava, its tradition only found in Serbian people.

Tribes of Vasojevići dont claim origins form Hoti lol. Vasojevići, Ozrinići and Piperi alongside Albanian tribes of Hoti and Krasniqi claim to have same ancestor. E-v13 is also found in Serbs a lot, not just from Montenegro but in other regions as well. We are not a homogenous nation like most others when it comes to haplogroups.

[Morlak]

No. First known ancestors of Kuči is Nenad(Serbian name) he is mentioned in the documents of Skadar Sanjak in early 1400s. By Kuči legends they claim that he comes from Mrnjančević noble family, and one of oldest families from Kuči has surname Mrnjavčić. They guy you are talking about is Drekale, and his origin is not certain. As i am familiar only Edith Durham(very pro-Albanian) claims him to descend from Berisha, however there are other stories about his origin. One being that his mother is again from Mranjančević family and father from Klimenti. Recently i heard some people claim Drekale descend from Skanderbeg's son Ivan. Also very important fact is that Serbian Kuči are separated in two groups, so called Old Kuči, who claim ancestry from Mrnjančević family, and Drekalovići(new Kuči) who claim ancestry from Drekale, so they are not a homogeneous tribe. Also both Kuči and Krasniqi(before islamization) celebrate Slava, its tradition only found in Serbian people.

Tribes of Vasojevići dont claim origins form Hoti lol. Vasojevići, Ozrinići and Piperi alongside Albanian tribes of Hoti and Krasniqi claim to have same ancestor. E-v13 is also found in Serbs a lot, not just from Montenegro but in other regions as well. We are not a homogenous nation like most others when it comes to haplogroups.

[Kelmendasi]

No. First known ancestors of Kuči is Nenad(Serbian name) he is mentioned in the documents of Skadar Sanjak in early 1400s. By Kuči legends they claim that he comes from Mrnjančević noble family, and one of oldest families from Kuči has surname Mranjvčić. The guy you are talking about is Drekale, and his origin is not certain. As i am familiar only Edith Durham(very pro-Albanian) claims him to descend from Berisha, however there are other stories about his origin. One being that his mother is again from Mranjančević family and father from Klimenti. Recently i heard some people claim Drekale descend from Skanderbeg's son Ivan. Also very important fact is that Serbian Kuči are separated in two groups, so called Old Kuči, who claim ancestry from Mrnjančević family, and Drekalovići(new Kuči) who claim ancestry from Drekale, so they are not a homogeneous tribe. Also both Kuči and Krasniqi(before islamization) celebrate Slava, its tradition only found in Serbian people.

Tribes of Vasojevići dont claim origins form Hoti lol. Vasojevići, Ozrinići and Piperi alongside Albanian tribes of Hoti and Krasniqi claim to have same ancestor. E-v13 is also found in Serbs a lot, not just from Montenegro but in other regions as well. We are not a homogenous nation like most others when it comes to haplogroups.

Oh yh forgot to mention that, the old Kuci are most likely Serbs but the Drekali are very likely Albanian and it isn’t only Durham who claims this, the Berisha e Kuqe themselves say this. The Krasniqi were Catholics and they are 100% Albanian in origin. The Vasojevici have multiple myths iirc, one claims them to be descended from a Nemanjic whilst the other claims them to be related to Hoti and the other clans you mentioned. Piperi are most likely Albanian in origin or have some Albanian element since many are R1b-BY611 which in Montenegro usually signals Albanian paternal origin.

[Morlak]

Oh yh forgot to mention that, the old Kuci are most likely Serbs but the Drekali are very likely Albanian and it isn’t only Durham who claims this, the Berisha e Kuqe themselves say this. The Krasniqi were Catholics and they are 100% Albanian in origin. The Vasojevici have multiple myths iirc, one claims them to be descended from a Nemanjic whilst the other claims them to be related to Hoti and the other clans you mentioned. Piperi are most likely Albanian in origin or have some Albanian element since many are R1b-BY611 which in Montenegro usually signals Albanian paternal origin.

Well folktales of a tribe arent really a good source. Pro-Serb(by pro-serb i mean those who dont identify with newly montengrin nation) Drekalovići will tell you that all of Northern Albanians are Serbs. Piperi are also not homogenous but they dont have Albanian origin thats for sure. However they did mix with Vlachs a lot, and Vlachs have similarities with Albanians both linguistically and genetically.

In general as i have said already there has been a lot of intermixing in Montenegro and Skadar area in Albania between Serbs and Albanians (and Vlachs).

[Kelmendasi]

Well folktales of a tribe arent really a good source. Pro-Serb(by pro-serb i mean those who dont identify with newly montengrin nation) Drekalovići will tell you that all of Northern Albanians are Serbs. Piperi are also not homogenous but they dont have Albanian origin thats for sure. However they did mix with Vlachs a lot, and Vlachs have similarities with Albanians both linguistically and genetically.

In general as i have said already there has been a lot of intermixing in Montenegro and Skadar area in Albania between Serbs and Albanians (and Vlachs).

Agreed, folk tales can be made up due to clan members becoming blood brothers or something.

[Tomorr]

Serbs plan to take over the world by giving away their daughters in marriage

and albanians should not forget that the seed determines your nation. You are albanian by blood only if your father is, regardless of mothers origin. One cannot be albanian if only his mother is.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Serbs plan to take over the world by giving away their daughters in marriage

and albanians should not forget that the seed determines your nation. You are albanian by blood only if your father is, regardless of mothers origin. One cannot be albanian if only his mother is.

Serbs as society, backed from church, academia, political elite have pushed the notion that they are 'heavenly people' (you have no idea how many believe this notion and are follower of this cult), they often pretend to be next Jews, however they are nothing but a ugly version of Jews, to be a Jew you should have resources, higher IQ also have glorious history of building ancient civilization & proud history of survival as nation for 2 thousand years, serbs are complete opposite of that.