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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Its true that Israel and Iran could contribute a lot with a potential cooperation, but there are too many issues that prevents this, most importantly to me is that the Middle East stabilizes and both the Kurds and Palestinians are able to enjoy their independence without conflict or religious violence.
    Dont you think that giving the Palestinians their state would remove a HUGE weight off Israeli shoulders? The facts however are: it would put Israel at risk, too much risk. In fact the entire west bank would easily become Gaza like structure under the control of Hamas or its clone which would "fight against zionism" while collecting billions from the donors.

    I think many very bloody wars could be needed before the region reaches the level of post 1945 Europe.

    The main point of my topic here is that these upcoming wars could be nuclear. Which is scary for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisit0r View Post
    Dont you think that giving the Palestinians their state would remove a HUGE weight off Israeli shoulders? The facts however are: it would put Israel at risk, too much risk. In fact the entire west bank would easily become Gaza like structure under the control of Hamas or its clone which would "fight against zionism" while collecting billions from the donors.
    Billions? Huh..just like Israel gets more than 4 billion dollars from the American tax payers of foreign aid alone without counting military and other trade aid as well? Jesus, the hypocrisy. If you want real peace then you should acknowledge that both sides are in the wrong rather than pretending that Israel's internal problems is not on the same level as other countries in the middle east, especially when the Rabbis like Ovedia Yusef and his kin have great influence in Israel's culture and way of thinking. Judaism in itself isn't really a peaceful religion either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisit0r View Post
    Dont you think that giving the Palestinians their state would remove a HUGE weight off Israeli shoulders? The facts however are: it would put Israel at risk, too much risk. In fact the entire west bank would easily become Gaza like structure under the control of Hamas or its clone which would "fight against zionism" while collecting billions from the donors.

    I think many very bloody wars could be needed before the region reaches the level of post 1945 Europe.

    The main point of my topic here is that these upcoming wars could be nuclear. Which is scary for everyone.
    Palestinians can achieve a lot under the right leadership, Hamas is not the right leadership with their radical Islamic policy which I am strongly against plus they are at conflict with Fatah which in my opinion at least are on the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCree900 View Post
    Billions? Huh..just like Israel gets more than 4 billion dollars from the American tax payers of foreign aid alone without counting military and other trade aid as well? Jesus, the hypocrisy. If you want real peace then you should acknowledge that both sides are in the wrong rather than pretending that Israel's internal problems is not on the same level as other countries in the middle east, especially when the Rabbis like Ovedia Yusef and his kin have great influence in Israel's culture and way of thinking. Judaism in itself isn't really a peaceful religion either.
    Israel gets $3b/year or ONE % of its GDP from America as military aid. "One percent".

    If theres peace tomorrow then Israel will continue being a first world economy based on hightech exports. The Palestinian state will be a shithole, perhaps an even bigger one than Egypt.

    Not a single arab country has a hightech economy in the region.

    I realize how painful for the Arabs it must be to see that the jewish state is a success. A huge success even. Israel is also capable of solving its problems. "Oh theres a shortage of water? Then we build desalination plants, problem solved. Just an example. While Egypt is considering going to war with Ethiopia over water.

    Judaism is obviously retarded but its not an aggressive religion. It does not call for expansion, conversion and other bs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisit0r View Post
    Israel gets $3b/year or ONE % of its GDP from America as military aid. "One percent".

    If theres peace tomorrow then Israel will continue being a first world economy based on hightech exports. The Palestinian state will be a shithole, perhaps an even bigger one than Egypt.

    Not a single arab country has a hightech economy in the region.

    I realize how painful for the Arabs it must be to see that the jewish state is a success. A huge success even. Israel is also capable of solving its problems. "Oh theres a shortage of water? Then we build desalination plants, problem solved. Just an example. While Egypt is considering going to war with Ethiopia over water.

    Judaism is obviously retarded but its not an aggressive religion. It does not call for expansion, conversion and other bs.
    Lol, talk about a bragger and an arrogant Jew who is living in a White country. Judaism is as racist and aggressive as Islam, but Jews aren't stupid people though, and they're far less blunt about their beliefs towards gentiles than Muslims are to the non-Muslims or the "kuffar". Why did you evade in serving in the army in Israel again? The nerve of people like you who demands an ethnostate for Jews and yet Whites don't have the right to have their own racist ethnistate like Israel. It's 4 billion dollars. It got increased under the Obama administration, and it's not based on military aid but rather as foreign aid to the country. Yes, yes, yes. It's so painful for us to see a state like Israel that was caught stealing military technology from the US and selling it to countries like China, and the country has the 2nd largest sex slave industry in the middle east after Saudi Arabia.

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    Israel is not sacred. Yet you still argue using conspiracy theories and fairytales from the arab world. Im not gonna have this conversation with you, see it the way you want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisit0r View Post
    Israel is not sacred. Yet you still argue using conspiracy theories and fairytales from the arab world. Im not gonna have this conversation with you, see it the way you want to.
    Then stop talking trash against us then we would have no problems here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCree900 View Post
    Then stop talking trash against us then we would have no problems here.
    The arab world is a giant shithole living on borrowed time. You know this. What you also know is that most non semitic persons in the world would choose life in Israel over life in ANY arab country if they were forced to relocate to any place in the middle east.

    Israel is a prosperous hightech democracy, the complete opposite from the rest of the region. I know how painful it must be for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCree900 View Post
    Indeed, and the nuclear reactor in Abu Dhabi is going to be used only for energy purposes which can lower the costs of electricity.
    That is obviously just the official reason that they're giving. If they get desperate, they would use the nukes or make threats with them. We need a nuclear free world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisit0r View Post
    The arab world is a giant shithole living on borrowed time. You know this. What you also know is that most non semitic persons in the world would choose life in Israel over life in ANY arab country if they were forced to relocate to any place in the middle east.

    Israel is a prosperous hightech democracy, the complete opposite from the rest of the region. I know how painful it must be for you.
    Lol, Israel has very tough immigration laws, and non-Jews barely have any right to migrate there. No, it isn't. The fact that you couldn't stop bashing us just proves the point that I was making that Jews like yourself are nothing more than hypocrites. Again, you as a Jew, who happens to live in a White western world, wants Israel to be an ethnostate for Jews, and yet, demanding that Whites shouldn't be like how your kind treat it's non-Jewish citizens and expats. One standard for you and another for the hated goyim. Btw, the human rights groups within Israel for expats claim that it's just as bad as those in the GCC, so don't bullshit me.

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